I know is a 'generalization' and there are many variables... but in general any know what sort of acceleration or velocity makes one say, "Okay, 1/8 inch surface mounted fins are gonna shred." I realize the planform makes a big difference because of flutter. Just curious because I been simulating some of my paper and balsa 24mm MMT rockets using the newly cert'd CTI 24mm loads. The F240VM gets into the 800ft/sec range! (For comparison an D15 is 230 and an E28 is about 450 ft/sec) --------------------------------------- Jeff Gortatowsky, Redondo Beach, CA | Twitter: JeffGortatowsky | Yahoo: indanapt Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jeffgortatowsky "(Scientific) Skepticism is not a set of beliefs, it is a set of methods for asking questions about reality." -- Doctor Steven Novella