[roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?

  • From: Don Krause <don.krause@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:30:15 -0700

I've been waiting for Kurt's pound per pin approach.

--
Don Krause

From the depths of my imagination. (with a little help from the spel checker in 
my iPhone)

On May 8, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Mike & Nancy Kramer <kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> all this talk about BP and not a single Kurt Gugisberg joke,
> 
> frankly I'm a bit disappointed in the collected masses...
> 
> On 5/8/2011 12:21 PM, Robert Braibish wrote:
>> 
>> Mike, Vern Knowels is a rocketeer from the northwest (Idaho) who has an 
>> amazing website with all kinds of                 information. He chronicles 
>> his building of several rockets and includes a wealth of information about 
>> things like this. He also explains how and why which I find very helpful. I 
>> recommend you give his site a visit...but plan on staying awhile! Oh, he 
>> also has some great videos and pictures.
>> 
>> Www.vernk.com
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>> 
>> 
>> From: Lesnick, Mike <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 
>> To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
>> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins? 
>> Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 2:55:38 PM 
>> 
>> Thank you to all who helped with comments on BP & Shear Pins.  Another       
>>                     question:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> QUESTION - Does anyone have a formula for the “air sampling hole”  or Static 
>> port hole (not sure what the correct                           name is) for 
>> the altimeter bay?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Michael Lesnick
>> 
>> Axiom Healthcare Group
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>> 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir
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>> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
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>> 714-594-5720 - Office Phone
>> 
>> 714-323-5968 - Cell
>> 
>> 714-968-7076 - Fax
>> 
>> MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>> From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>> On Behalf Of Gene Engelgau
>> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:34 AM
>> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi all - IMHO it is a mistake to not use them symmetrical.  So 1 pin is out. 
>>  But more than that  number spaced evenly around the airframe is good.  Of 
>> course smaller airframes like 54mm would need only 2 2-56 nylon.  Large 7.5" 
>> maybe 4 4-40 nylon screws.
>> 
>> YMMV...
>> 
>> -G
>> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> I've successfully used the following relationship on over 75 successful 
>> dual-deploy flights.  I believe it was provided by someone on roc-chat  
>> years ago (Dave Flynn?) 
>> 
>> E-charges:   BP(g)=.00051 x Length(in) x Force(lb) x (Peak Alt ASL/10K+1)  
>> with an eject force somewhere between 100-200 lbs   
>> 
>> Notice the equation is altitude corrected, as your "actual" ejection will 
>> not occur at the same altitude as your ground test.  (Hopefully) 
>> Notice also that body tube diameter has been canceled out of the equation 
>> during the math. 
>> 
>> 2-56 nylon bolts for shear pins;  35 lbs shear force each;  100 lbs w/o 
>> pins, 200 lbs with 
>> 
>> I often (mostly) use non-symmetric numbers of 2-56 shear pins  (ie.  one) 
>> 
>> Chris Kobel 
>> 
>> From:
>> 
>> "Lesnick, Mike" <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> To:
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>> <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Date:
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>> 05/06/2011 06:21 PM
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>> Subject:                                 
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>> [roc-chat] How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?

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