I've been waiting for Kurt's pound per pin approach. -- Don Krause From the depths of my imagination. (with a little help from the spel checker in my iPhone) On May 8, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Mike & Nancy Kramer <kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > all this talk about BP and not a single Kurt Gugisberg joke, > > frankly I'm a bit disappointed in the collected masses... > > On 5/8/2011 12:21 PM, Robert Braibish wrote: >> >> Mike, Vern Knowels is a rocketeer from the northwest (Idaho) who has an >> amazing website with all kinds of information. He chronicles >> his building of several rockets and includes a wealth of information about >> things like this. He also explains how and why which I find very helpful. I >> recommend you give his site a visit...but plan on staying awhile! Oh, he >> also has some great videos and pictures. >> >> Www.vernk.com >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> >> From: Lesnick, Mike <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >> To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins? >> Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 2:55:38 PM >> >> Thank you to all who helped with comments on BP & Shear Pins. Another >> question: >> >> >> >> QUESTION - Does anyone have a formula for the “air sampling hole” or Static >> port hole (not sure what the correct name is) for >> the altimeter bay? >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> Michael Lesnick >> >> Axiom Healthcare Group >> >> 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir >> >> Fountain Valley, CA 92708 >> >> 714-594-5720 - Office Phone >> >> 714-323-5968 - Cell >> >> 714-968-7076 - Fax >> >> MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Gene Engelgau >> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:34 AM >> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins? >> >> >> >> Hi all - IMHO it is a mistake to not use them symmetrical. So 1 pin is out. >> But more than that number spaced evenly around the airframe is good. Of >> course smaller airframes like 54mm would need only 2 2-56 nylon. Large 7.5" >> maybe 4 4-40 nylon screws. >> >> YMMV... >> >> -G >> >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I've successfully used the following relationship on over 75 successful >> dual-deploy flights. I believe it was provided by someone on roc-chat >> years ago (Dave Flynn?) >> >> E-charges: BP(g)=.00051 x Length(in) x Force(lb) x (Peak Alt ASL/10K+1) >> with an eject force somewhere between 100-200 lbs >> >> Notice the equation is altitude corrected, as your "actual" ejection will >> not occur at the same altitude as your ground test. (Hopefully) >> Notice also that body tube diameter has been canceled out of the equation >> during the math. >> >> 2-56 nylon bolts for shear pins; 35 lbs shear force each; 100 lbs w/o >> pins, 200 lbs with >> >> I often (mostly) use non-symmetric numbers of 2-56 shear pins (ie. one) >> >> Chris Kobel >> >> From: >> >> "Lesnick, Mike" <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: >> >> <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Date: >> >> 05/06/2011 06:21 PM >> >> Subject: >> >> [roc-chat] How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?