all this talk about BP and not a single Kurt Gugisberg joke, frankly I'm a bit disappointed in the collected masses... On 5/8/2011 12:21 PM, Robert Braibish wrote:
Mike, Vern Knowels is a rocketeer from the northwest (Idaho) who has an amazing website with all kinds of information. He chronicles his building of several rockets and includes a wealth of information about things like this. He also explains how and why which I find very helpful. I recommend you give his site a visit...but plan on staying awhile! Oh, he also has some great videos and pictures.Www.vernk.com Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: * Lesnick, Mike <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx>; *To: * <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; *Subject: * [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins? *Sent: * Sun, May 8, 2011 2:55:38 PMThank you to all who helped with comments on BP & Shear Pins. Another question:QUESTION - Does anyone have a formula for the "air sampling hole" or Static port hole (not sure what the correct name is) for the altimeter bay?Mike Michael Lesnick Axiom Healthcare Group 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-594-5720 - Office Phone 714-323-5968 - Cell 714-968-7076 - Fax MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx*From:*roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Gene Engelgau*Sent:* Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:34 AM *To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?Hi all - IMHO it is a mistake to not use them symmetrical. So 1 pin is out. But more than that number spaced evenly around the airframe is good. Of course smaller airframes like 54mm would need only 2 2-56 nylon. Large 7.5" maybe 4 4-40 nylon screws.YMMV... -GOn Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx <javascript:return>> wrote:I've successfully used the following relationship on over 75 successful dual-deploy flights. I believe it was provided by someone on roc-chat years ago (Dave Flynn?)E-charges: BP(g)=.00051 x Length(in) x Force(lb) x (Peak Alt ASL/10K+1) with an eject force somewhere between 100-200 lbsNotice the equation is altitude corrected, as your "actual" ejection will not occur at the same altitude as your ground test. (Hopefully) Notice also that body tube diameter has been canceled out of the equation during the math.2-56 nylon bolts for shear pins; 35 lbs shear force each; 100 lbs w/o pins, 200 lbs withI often (mostly) use non-symmetric numbers of 2-56 shear pins (ie. one) Chris Kobel From: "Lesnick, Mike" <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return>> To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return>> Date: 05/06/2011 06:21 PM Subject: [roc-chat] How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins? Sent by: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All, One more question about shear pins.If I use 2 or 3 2-56 nylon screws for shear pins, how much extra Black powder do you think it would take to ensure the nose separates from the airframe?Mike Michael Lesnick Axiom Healthcare Group 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-594-5720 - Office Phone 714-323-5968 - Cell 714-968-7076 - Fax MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx*From:*roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return> [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return>] *On Behalf Of *MonsieurBoo@xxxxxxx <javascript:return>*Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 3:17 AM* To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return>* Subject:* [roc-chat] Happy 50th anniversary of Alan Shepard's first Cornwallis, Yorktown, 1781 ;-) Cheers Mark LIn a message dated 5/6/2011 1:07:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:return> writes:Rick "I mean, who *hasn't* beaten the French?" Dickinson -- - Regards Gene Engelgau KI6IBL, NAR 86770 / TRA 12243 - L3http://fruitychutes.com <http://fruitychutes.com/> - Consumer Aerospace Recovery SolutionsFollow us on Twitter! <http://twitter.com/fruitychutes/> 408-499-9050