[roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?

  • From: "Lesnick, Mike" <mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:55:38 -0400

Thank you to all who helped with comments on BP & Shear Pins.  Another
question:

 

QUESTION - Does anyone have a formula for the "air sampling hole"  or
Static port hole (not sure what the correct name is) for the altimeter
bay?

 

Mike

 

Michael Lesnick

Axiom Healthcare Group

18135 Santa Lauretta Cir

Fountain Valley, CA 92708

714-594-5720 - Office Phone

714-323-5968 - Cell

714-968-7076 - Fax

MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx

 

 

 

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Subject: [roc-chat] Re: How Much Extra BP for Shear Pins?

 

Hi all - IMHO it is a mistake to not use them symmetrical.  So 1 pin is
out.  But more than that  number spaced evenly around the airframe is
good.  Of course smaller airframes like 54mm would need only 2 2-56
nylon.  Large 7.5" maybe 4 4-40 nylon screws.

YMMV...

-G

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I've successfully used the following relationship on over 75 successful
dual-deploy flights.  I believe it was provided by someone on roc-chat
years ago (Dave Flynn?) 

E-charges:   BP(g)=.00051 x Length(in) x Force(lb) x (Peak Alt
ASL/10K+1)  with an eject force somewhere between 100-200 lbs   

Notice the equation is altitude corrected, as your "actual" ejection
will not occur at the same altitude as your ground test.  (Hopefully) 
Notice also that body tube diameter has been canceled out of the
equation during the math. 

2-56 nylon bolts for shear pins;  35 lbs shear force each;  100 lbs w/o
pins, 200 lbs with 

I often (mostly) use non-symmetric numbers of 2-56 shear pins  (ie.
one) 

Chris Kobel 



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All, 
  
One more question about shear pins. 
  
If I use 2 or 3  2-56 nylon screws for  shear pins, how much extra Black
powder do you think it would take to ensure the nose separates from the
airframe? 
  
Mike 
  
Michael Lesnick 
Axiom Healthcare Group 
18135 Santa Lauretta Cir 
Fountain Valley, CA 92708 
714-594-5720 - Office Phone 
714-323-5968 - Cell 
714-968-7076 - Fax 
MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  
  
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