I will probably pull one case for my loaner hardware because I stocked them tonight they are pretty cool. 24mm 1 grain V-Max = E75 24mm 6 grain Red = G127 24mm 6 grain skid = G100 24mm 3 grain white Thunder = F85 Plus the other ones that are out already 3G Reload Kit 73F30-6A Longburn 16.99 6G Reload Kit HP142G117-11A 22.99 6G Reload Kit HP144G65-8A Longburn 22.99 6G Reload Kit HP139G107-12A Dual Thrust 22.99 Blue Streak 6G Reload Kit 143G150-13A 22.99 Green3 6G Reload Kit 131G84-10A 22.99 Smoky Sam 3G Reload Kit 68F79-13A 16.99 Vmax 3G Reload Kit 68F240-15A 16.99 Jack G ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Trammell<mailto:stramm8235@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Speed of Balsa Hey Jack does this mean I have to buy a 24mm Cesaroni case? Not a problem, just curious because these sound pretty "interesting". Steve Trammell On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM, JACK GARIBALDI wrote: Steve This week I will have the new E75 and G100 24mm motors from Cesaroni, get another one out of the closet. Jack G ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Trammell<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('stramm8235@xxxxxxxxxxx')> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx')> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Speed of Balsa I put sealed balsa fins, clipped delta style, 3/16" thick, on a bashed Estes SkyWriter and it didn't survive the transition through mach on an AT single use, 24mm F. Jack G. still delights in busting my chops over that flight. It was an impressive shred though; biggest piece left was the nose cone. Steve Trammell On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jeff Gortatowsky wrote: I know is a 'generalization' and there are many variables... but in general any know what sort of acceleration or velocity makes one say, "Okay, 1/8 inch surface mounted fins are gonna shred." I realize the planform makes a big difference because of flutter. Just curious because I been simulating some of my paper and balsa 24mm MMT rockets using the newly cert'd CTI 24mm loads. The F240VM gets into the 800ft/sec range! (For comparison an D15 is 230 and an E28 is about 450 ft/sec) --------------------------------------- Jeff Gortatowsky, Redondo Beach, CA | Twitter: JeffGortatowsky | Yahoo: indanapt Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jeffgortatowsky "(Scientific) Skepticism is not a set of beliefs, it is a set of methods for asking questions about reality." -- Doctor Steven Novella