[roc-chat] Re: Punisher on a K1440

  • From: Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:51:02 -0700

That's better!

Chris



From: Robert Patrick Lees <rlees001@xxxxxxx>
To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 06/06/2015 11:23 PM
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Punisher on a K1440
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Main at 300 meters/ 820 feet, D'oh!

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Robert Patrick Lees <rlees001@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
My current estimates are as follows

Robert Lees

Retention: Aeropacks
Drogue- 8 inch fruity chutes/TBD
Main; 48" iris from Fruity Chutes or 60" Standard or something else
Altimeter/Tracking- Altus Metrum Telemetrum @ 434.050 Mhz- GPS and Radio
Direction and Finding
Drogue at apogee main at 820 meters
Weight is about 4.2 lbs
CG on mine is around 28" from tip, I added a little bit of noseweight

I'm all set, except trying to decide on the best chute

I vote Saturday morning.


On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:58 PM, David Smith <davew6dps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Current data and estimates for my Punisher.

David Smith
Retention: Aeropack
Drogue: TBD, possibly streamer(s)
Main: TBD
Altimeter: Stratologger SL
Dry CG, tentatively 29.6"
Dry Weight: ~4 lbs.
Tracking: custom APRS (GPS), 433.55 MHz

I will be off until Wednesday, so I plan to be working on this in the next
couple of days...

Do we have a tentative time for the launch? I think fairly early Saturday
morning would be best. Any time Saturday or Sunday works for me.

David Smith
NAR 78668, L2
Amateur Extra, W6DPS
ROC Board Member

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:40 PM, John Coker <john@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dry (airframe and electronics, no motor or no laundry), I get a C.G. of
31.25" from the tip, which RockSim says in 1.0 caliber stable with the
K1440.

Since the laundry will be forward of this point, I think mine will be fine
without added nose weight.

FYI, my dry weight is 3.5#, but I still have the main airframe to paint so
it'll probably be a bit more than that afterwards. Yes, it's still in
primer on the weekend before the launch. :)

John

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 3:30 PM, John Coker <john@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's the preliminary info, before the main airframe has been painted and
without recovery. RockSim gives me 1.0 caliber stability without nose
weight.

John Coker
(650) 302-1555
Retention: Slim-line
Drogue: 12"
Main: 48" elliptical
Alt: TeleMetrum
Main: 800'
dry CG: 31.25
dry mass: 3.5#
stability: 1.0 (RockSim)

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Please send me your Punisher pre-flight data. I'll be finishing up mine
this weekend.

Thanks,

Chris Kobel





From: Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx>
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Date: 06/01/2015 10:17 AM
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Based on the roc-chat traffic, here are the names I've gathered so far for
the Punisher race. Who have I missed?

Chris





From: Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx>
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Date: 06/01/2015 08:34 AM
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Here's some of the data I'd like to collect - did I miss anything?

My input isn't complete cuz we still haven't finished our rocket yet!

Chris and James Kobel





From: Kurt Gugisberg <kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/30/2015 12:32 PM
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Punisher on a K1440
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Chris
When I am back in town, I will post my cg info. Probably best to do it
without the motor installed since most people may not have a loaded casing
handy. Perhaps David Reese can provide that info to as he flew it.

Kurt

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Chris J Kobel <Chris.J.Kobel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

David,

Glad you had a successful flight (and got your rocket back!) Hopefully
you measured the CG position of your Ready-to-Fly rocket so that we can
all match it and be assured of stability.

That said, this drag race offers the opportunity to obtain some
interesting statistics on the Punisher. Given everyone's flying the same
rocket on the same motor, I'd be interested in gathering some performance
numbers including pre-flight mass and maximum altitude from everyone who's
participating.

Chris Kobel



From: David Reese <dareese@xxxxxxxxx>
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 05/24/2015 05:49 PM
Subject: [roc-chat] Punisher on a K1440
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Hey all,

Just boarded my return flight but I don't want to keep you all waiting in
suspense so I banged this out on my phone real quick:

https://instagram.com/p/3FdNCgJXpm/

--david

ps to those of you who I owe phone calls, I'll get to them tomorrow! We've
been busy this weekend...

pps Told ya so :-) [attachment "Punisher Flight Statistics.pdf" deleted by
Chris J Kobel/West/Aerospace/US]





--
David P Smith
NAR 78668, L2
Amateur Extra, W6DPS


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