"Doesn't cost much more at all." How much? And what if this self-actuating system isn't already in place. How much does it cost to install one of these where it doesn't already exist? How do you decide which corners get the audio signals? What programs will be cut or dropped to fund this, or what tax or bond issue will be used? Choosing to pay for something is only half of the issue; you also need to determine what isn't going to be purchased with that money you have elected to spend some place else. America wouldn't be having the financial problems its having if our leadership in Washington had thought about that before they spent our money. How much or how little something costs is irrelevant if the money isn't there in the first place. -----Original Message----- From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dauidr@xxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:56 PM To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [real-eyes] Re: can we b united/ Please post to real-eyes Okay, then. Let's expand this argument to the greater disability community. There are many reasons why audio signals and self-actuated traffic light controls are good for the public. First, they help regulate the flow traffic more equitably at intersections. Without such regulation, most intersections in the city get crowded which confuses and ultimate slows the jam of traffic. Second, the sighted public already uses such self-actuating traffic control buttons to givethemselves what they by law have, the right pass at the demarkated time. Are blind people more special than that? No. The consumer organization to which I proudly belong focuses on accommodation and cooperation, using the means thaht will help the mainstream public and the blindness community alike adapt to our common needs. Thirdly, with that said, adding audio sound to an already existing and self-actuating traffic control system does not cost much more money at all. And, as far cost goes, it's great if government can be smaller, more streamlined, and more efficient. So, as much as cost is a factor, prioritization at the local level is the real issues here. David Matt. 28:19-20 ____________________________________________________________ 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e667aecb892b630d0st05vuc To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes