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- From: "dauidr@xxxxxxxx" <dauidr@xxxxxxxx>
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Hi, Patrick.
Thanks for the good news. It does, though, bring two questions to mind.
1. Will the public works department be transparent enough to notify us in the
blindness community that the task is complete and that we can have a few of us
test it out before its completion is official? In that way, if there's anything
defective, they can attend to it with less delay.
2. What details did the public works department give you about the
instalation--cost, type of audio sound, etc.?
The issue will continue to be: How do we as the blindness community proceed
with future projects with the public works department in conjunction with city
council, city management, etc. It is really detremental to us and the
mainstream public to wait for future accidents or fatalities to get more work
done. Rather, this instalation should spur on further accommodation between the
City Hall and the blindness community.
One thing I can see coming out of this is a reevaluation of the cost of a
traffic or walk light. Instead of seeing an APS as an add-on or something
extra, public works could budget it in with total cost of a light pole/walk
signal. That would help them appropriate fund to best service all citizens as
they work on the city's infrastructure.
David
Matt. 28:19-20
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I received a message from the KC MO Public Works Department earlier today
informing Sheila and I that the intersection at 31st and Main will have an
APS also known as an Accessible Pedestrian signal installed by September 19,
2011!
Regards
Patrick L. Palmer
Senior Disability Rights Advocate
www.thewholeperson.org
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Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
I totally agree with you Mitch. I feel that the city should do everything
they can to make street crossings easier for people with disabilities.
Especially with the new smart lights they are using, it is making it almost
impossible for blind people to cross streets with out audible signals. I am
tired of the minority shouting out and then the rest of us who want it to
just stand by and loose out.
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From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
> Not everyone has good O&M skills, nor will that ever be the case. O&M is a
> skill that can be developed, but like everything else in life, some have
> greater potential than others. And like many other things in life, those
> skills are not static. Even with constant use and practice, sills don't
> remain the same as we get older. Even a little hearing loss can totally
> change one's perspective on O&M.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:35 AM
> To: 'real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
>
> This is an issue on which the NFB and I are in total opposition. As I
> understand it, the NFB believes that audible signals and other detectible
> warning devices are an unnecessary expense--that if one possesses good O&M
> skills, there should be no need for such extravagant accommodations. So
> why,
> then, are there signs and other types of visual indicators for the
> sighted--all of which society deems perfectly acceptable? I hope that the
> tragic event the blind community has just experienced will cause all of us
> to take another look at this issue--not just at that particular
> intersection, but at our safety as a whole and the types of measures that
> can be undertaken to increase it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD
> Communications Specialist
> Unity
> Message of Hope Ministry
> 1901 NW Blue Parkway
> Unity Village, MO 64065
> Toll Free: 866-421-3066
> Local: 816-251-3588
> M-F, 7:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. (CT)
>
>
> www.unity.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Mitchell D. Lynn
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:57 AM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
>
> I was thinking more about the need for electronics at that crosswalk.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of bill stephan
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:24 AM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Sheila Styron
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
>
>
>
> the author of the Star article that contained the erroneous information
> has
> been made aware of the findings of the lead investigator.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Please post to real-eyes
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 09/01/2011 17:54
>
> Is anyone sending this along to the news outlets?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Reginald George
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:55 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; nut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: Please post to real-eyes
>
> Please excuse the cross post. I realize that this is a technology list,
> but
> Chip has many friends here, and I know we are all concerned.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sheila Styron
>
>
>
>
> I work as the public policy coordinator for The Whole Person and represent
> this organization with the city on accessibility issues. It was in this
> capacity that I contacted Sergeant Fuller, lead investigator for the
> August
> 31 traffic incident where Chip Block was fatally struck down.
>
> This is what Sergeant Fuller told me about this accident, and this officer
> had been unaware of Chip's visual impairment prior to speaking with me.
>
>
>
> The events were clearly filmed by a Max bus camera. The driver, a woman
> with
> two dogs in her car was proceeding from west to east on 31st with the sun
> in
> her eyes. She was first in line for the left arrow and when she got it,
> turned left. The crosswalk was apparently in some amount of shade, and she
> hit Chip as he was walking across Main in the crosswalk from east to west
> traveling along the north side of the intersection. The film of the
> incident
> clearly shows that Chip did not have the light and was not running.
>
>
>
> The intersection at 31st and Main is one where the city has been promising
> to install an accessible pedestrian signal since around this time last
> year.
> The Children's Center for Low Vision is right there along with the
> Rehabilitation Institute. Consumer groups, orientation and mobility
> instructors who train visually impaired people to travel safely and
> several
> individuals all identified 31st and Main as a priority installation. The
> city has been dragging its feet, and I recently spoke with the contractor
> who has the job and says he has experienced difficulties being paid for
> his
> work in a timely fashion. The most recent deadline for completion on a
> list
> of 7 APS installations designated as priorities and including 31st and
> Main
> is currently set for the end of September. I feel certain that this
> heartbreaking untimely death could have most likely been avoided had there
> been an accessible pedestrian signal at 31st and Main.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sheila Styron, Public Policy Coordinator
>
> The Whole Person
>
> 3420 Broadway Suite 105
>
> Kansas City, MO 64111
>
> Work: 816.561.0304
>
> Mobile: 816.896.6552
>
> Fax: 816.753.8163
>
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