DEAR TITRISOL, Below you used the word "was" describing LPD. As Mark Twain once said, "Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated". It seems alive and well: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=ETHOL+LPD <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=ETHOL+LPD&N=0&InitialSearch=yes> &N=0&InitialSearch=yes CHEERS! BOB _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of titrisol Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:54 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: developers for Ilford warm tone papers Ethol LPD was a great warm tone developer when used diluted 1+3 or 1+4 up to 1+15 You do not see much difference in the tone (except it looks neutral) but when selenium or sulfide toners are applied the difference is incredible _____ From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011, 15:36 Subject: [pure-silver] Re: developers for Ilford warm tone papers Richard Knoppow wrote: > > I have not done any darkroom work for a while so this is old > information. Dektol has the reputation of producing greenish tinges > on many papers, I don't know why. Bromophen uses Phenidone in place > of Metol and tends to produce slightly cooler and more neutral colors > on most papers. It should give similar results to PQ. I am not sure > if it also has benzotriazole in it but its a more effective > anti-foggant for Phenidone developers so they tend to have it in > place of, or in addition to, bromide. Benzotrizole also tends to > produce slightly bluer or more neutral colors. Dektol is very > reliable but is not always the optimum developer. > Long ago, when I was using Ilfobrom paper, I objected to the greenish tone I got with Dektol. I did not get this problem with Amidol developer, but it was expensive to mix up. Examining the differences, and trying various things, I concluded that the secret ingredient in the Amidol developer was not the Amidol, but the fact that the formula I was using used benzotriazole instead of bromide as the restrainer. Since I knew that Dektol was a lot like D-72, I mixed up D-72 using benzotriazole instead of bromide, to my complete satisfaction. The paper happens to need less exposure with the modified D-72 than the Amidol developer (Ansco 113?), but the speed increase is not really important to me. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 10:30:01 up 12 days, 19:36, 4 users, load average: 4.52, 4.77, 5.00 ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6596 (20111102) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com