Shanon, Light falls off with the square of the distance. If you measure the actual distance from the negative to easel for both. Doing the math might give you more to work with but it is also quite possible that light spill, paper changes, temp, age of developer etc are all at work. When variations come to visit, it is best to gain a more acute awareness of all the little things. Then you can apply them to the data. So is it optical illusion or real density difference? if so, what caused it? light change, paper change, etc. Don't over look your timer. Is it digital? analog? Voltage change? heaters and cooling system sometimes draw quite a bit and if they are on the same circuit life is not kind. Variations from batch to batch might indicate different things than variations within a batch? are you seeing one or both? Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:20 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: contrast changes The exposure times were the same. I just opened up the enlarging lens one stop. It was a new box of paper when this started, so maybe it was just that batch. --shannon On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Ralph W. Lambrecht wrote: There might be more than one thing at work here. 1. optical illusion 2. With longer exposure times, light leaks and safelight fog are more of an issue. 3. Test strips should always be cut from the same box of paper. Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht http://www.darkroomagic.com This electronic message contains information that is confidential, legally privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. This information is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, printing or any other use of, or any action in reliance on, the contents of this electronic message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message immediately. P don't print this e-mail unless you really have to On Feb 27, 2010, at 23:10, Richard Knoppow wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon Stoney" <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: [pure-silver] contrast changes I've been making "work prints" for the first time: that is, enlarging to a print on 8x10 paper and getting contrast right before bumping up to the more expensive 11x14. Usually this works pretty well. But in my last printing session, it didn't: the big print looked a lot "flatter" than the little print, which looked fine, at the same paper grade. I guess I could have agitated less, but I made two big prints and made a point of agitating the second one so that this wouldn't be a problem. Could larger paper be subtly different in contrast? Or could a bigger print just "look" flatter? --shannon There may be other effects such as a reciprocity failure in the paper but the comparison should helf find if that is happening. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. http://shannonstoney-twors.blogspot.com/ http://branguslane.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/shannonstoney/ http://www.eyeballkicks.blogspot.com http://allfiber.blogspot.com