Ralph, It sounded to me as if she just raised the enlarger to spread the light to fill her paper with image. I don't think she did any measuring. The little Ilford EM 10 is also a great little device for this. It is quite easy to do a measurement and do the math. If light spill is an issue in an increase from 8x10 to 11x14 there are probably more underlying issue in that darkroom. That is not a big change. I also don't put much into the change of size from 8x10 to 11x14 influencing contrast as both prints are still a hand held event and not like going from a contact or 5x7 to a 20x24. Exposure could very much be the issue as an underexposed print can be flat as the dmax was never reached. however, without seeing the difference we are all making guesses ; ) Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ralph W. Lambrecht Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:06 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: contrast changes That should work, but I understand it is also what Shannon did. If I understand correctly, exposure is not his issue, contrast is. Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht http://www.darkroomagic.com This electronic message contains information that is confidential, legally privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. This information is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, printing or any other use of, or any action in reliance on, the contents of this electronic message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message immediately. P don't print this e-mail unless you really have to On Feb 28, 2010, at 13:59, Jean-David Beyer wrote: Ralph W. Lambrecht wrote: Shannon One more thought. Exposure is the product of illuminance and time. By opening up the aperture, you were able to keep the exposure time consistent, but you increased the illuminance to provide the increased exposure required to cover the larger format. I have a Beseler color analyzer. I do not care to do color printing anymore, but the thing works. One use I have for it is just in situations like this. I make 8" x 10" test prints, and use the same kind of paper (but different emulsion numbers) for each size. When I get a print I like, with the exposure I like, I measure the illuminance falling on the paper with the analyzer, and then raise the enlarger head to get the size I want for the larger print. I then open up the lens to get the same illuminance. Since I use the same exposure time, this should correct implicitly for reciprocity failure in the paper. Since I use the same illuminance, this corrects for different enlarger height and magnification ratio. This procedure does not correct for flare in the darkroom affecting the larger print differently, nor does it correct for any psychological effects. In the past, with Kodak, Ilford, and Oriental Seagull, I have not noticed much difference between different batch numbers of the same papers. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 07:50:01 up 39 days, 9:10, 3 users, load average: 4.82, 4.75, 4.66 ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14450 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/>