Calbe has their developer A-49 which is said to be the same as Agfa's Atomal. They also list the developing agent Atomal in their catalog of chemicals. It don't know how one would go about ordering it or what the minimum quantity would be. A-49 is available from www.jandcphoto.com. Atomal has a small but apparently dedicated following. I would suggest running a few rolls of film through A-49 to see if it is worthwhile pursuing Atomal (the developing agent). Jerry -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Helen Bach Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:51 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Atomal? Ryuji, It's OK, I was only giving some historical background in answer to Richard's post, not extolling Atomal's virtues. As far as my original question goes, I would just like to satisfy my curiosity. I'm definitely not expecting to produce anything to match a well-formulated modern developer, and wouldn't even think of trying. Part of my curiosity is 'I wonder if anyone still makes N-hydroxyethyl o-aminophenol these days?'. I think that if I wanted to do serious investigations, and if I was capable of doing them, I would look at some of the recent colour developers as well. The aim would be to optimise the film/developer combination for scanning, tailoring it for the limitations and benefits of the scanning process and the capabilities of digital post-processing. In sixty years somebody will say "Still photographers had little idea about film as an origination medium for digital intermediate processes back then; it's a wonder that film survived." Maybe I should have added to my brief history something along the lines of: "Though introduced in about 1935, N-hydroxyethyl o-aminophenol is rarely mentioned in literature on developing agents. There's likely to be a good reason for this." Best, Helen ================================================================================ ============================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.