Re: c++ fruit basket
- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:26:56 -0800
Gena,
that's not dim gal, anyone walking into the last third of a conversation
will be a bit lost unless the first part is still attached and you go
through it all, smile.
there are two things going on here, a discussion of the ability to make a
C++ application more accessible, and a "fruit basket demo" which is a site,
and a series of programs, called the fruit basket, which display the way to
make this application in various languages, generally including commented
code, notes on compiling (if needed) and an executable so folks can look
over a similar project in several languages and select the language that
makes the most sense for there style of thinking. an example:
I myself work in Visual basic 6, an older visual basic language developed by
Microsoft, there is a newer version of the language, visual basic.net, but
there are differences in syntax, and other areas that make it more C like,
which confuse me. and a true C language is very confusing to me.
by looking at some of the FBD's I have found that python is more VB like in
its syntax, and therefore more comprehensible to me than C++, so if I decide
to move on to another language I may well go to python, since it "reads
easier" to me.
if you look under my name below, you will find links to two of my sights,
the "grab bag" which is a site that has links and downloads to help the
visually impaired programmer quickly get tools and information they need to
succeed at programming. as well a few links that many of us find useful in
general, like scripts for programs. and a link to the "fruit basket demo"
site, where the before mentioned applications in assorted languages are
stored and are available for download.
I hope this clears things up for you, on the other topic, your actual
programming, I'll have to leave that to others who are expert, or more
expert than I in your chosen language.
HTH,
Inthane
• For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links
to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
• to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: c++ fruit basket
Hi
This is my first message here and I'm not too sure to what it is you guys
are discussing here but it might be of interest to me. I'm studying at the
University of Central Lancashire software engineering. Which is focusing
upon C++ and we've just hit windows programming. That is GUI applications.
Anyway, we use Borland Builder which has many accessible features however, I
cannot build a form with a collection of chosen controls. I wondered Is
there something with these WxWidgets that may help me? Regrettably I'm also
confused about the fruit basket. What's that all about?
Sorry for being so dim!
Gena
Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:05 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: c++ fruit basket
By any reasonable standard, WxWidgets is a successful GUI library.
Juce, the podcatcher, has been download more than 2.5 million times
according to its web site. Audacity is a well known CD ripper -- also
based on WxWidgets.
I agree that one should not simply be positive for the sake of
being positive -- though that does help human relations and motivation
to do good. A relentless negative message is certainly not helpful
either.
Jamal
On
Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:14:50 +0200
From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: c++ fruit basket
Yes you are right.
I agree that Wx is for the moment the only somehow accessible GUI which is
portable on more operating systems. I also like the fact that it is some
more advanced than other GUIS. For the moment I am not so interested in
its
portability, but I might be.
But I don't agree with that "list of successful programs".
It is a very small list of programs, and they are not what I understand by
"successful".
I understand by successful one of the following:
Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, MS Word, MS Excel, Mozilla Firefox,
Microsoft Age of Empires, Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun, Eidos
Commandos,
Nero Burning ROM, programs for using a TV Tunner, Windows Explorer, and
many
other programs which are used by hundread of million people.
I didn't verify, but I doubt that some of them are made using Wx Widgets.
Even with the latest years .net hype, I think that most of their
interfaces
are made using MFC (of course, with the exceptions of those like Firefox
that were started just to compete Microsoft).
But don't understand me wrong. I didn't say that I am not interested in
WxWidgets samples under C++.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: c++ fruit basket
> Hello Teddy,
> I respect your opinion on this but I have to desagree, because
> there're many "successfull" projects made in wx (look
> www.wxwidgets.org) and also because of a more important reazon:
> I am a blind working in the programming area. Right untill now I
> didn't need to make a software with a gui, but if I have to do one
> some day, and one which will run on several platforms, mfc won't lead
> me to anything usefull. In fact, wx is one of the few solutions which
> will allow one develope a gui software to unix or mac platforms and
> test it safely and easily before releasing it in the windows platform.
> Marlon
>
> --
> When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just
> stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for
> free."
> Linus Torvalds
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