Re: black berry accessibility

  • From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:28:45 -0600

I do have a blackberry emulator installed and running on my computer and am looking into what can be done with it. The biggest problem I am finding with the black berry though is just the pure lack of applications for it. But they do allow you to download an SDK and also have a plug in for programming it in Visual Studio.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: black berry accessibility




I don't know who they asked and yes I gave them feed back but have heard
nothing.

Ken

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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:36 AM
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Subject: RE: black berry accessibility

Hi Ken,
Did they ask any potential users what functions they might need or did they
just take the paternalistic attitude that they knew what the users would
need? Did you give them any feedback?
Jim
James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the
world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead




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This argument will get you in trouble with devices.  The Samsung 640 A is
accessible out of the box Samsung made it so.  Yes I can use it but they
decide what I can use for example the way it reads names is awful. The way
you have to deal with contacts makes me pray for a rotary phone.  Its cute
that you can get the description of the backgrounds like I changed my
background to a blue J flying over a field but I couldn't email anyone
because they figure I guess that the screen reader doesn't need to work real good in all fields. I spent more time on the phone going up and down arrow
because there was no read command for where you are.  There didn't seem to
be a separate way to tell what time it was or to be able to speed up the
speech or slow it down.

Its nice of the company to make this phone accessible but maybe there is
something to be said for us making screen readers so that it is more than a
toy we need tools.

Ken

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:15 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: black berry accessibility

Because I refuse to pay for yet another device and another software package
that provides "special" accessibility.  I'm perfectly willing to buy a
device that has accessibility built-in. Frankly, I'm beginning to be a bit
annoyed with the argument that blindness is a small market.
Pratik Patel
Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech.
The City University of New York

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:01 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: black berry accessibility

you totallydidn't get my message. I am not asking for rim to bring
accessibility to us. because i believe the tools are already there.
why aren't we doing it for ourselves?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Steve Britt wrote:

Well, first we have to get the hang of that bitter blackberry taste, lol.
No, seriously, folks, a big reason is probably that the blind and disabled
communities are seen as too small a market to be bothered with. Start making
noise, folks; as the old saying goes, it's the squeaky wheel that gets the
grease.

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