Re: Separating .net from Visual Studio
- From: "InthaneElf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:41:15 -0700
depends on the instructor of the class, and how hard fasted he is to the
methodology used, some of my professors would not have accepted the work done
that way, some would have.
it may be to your (the originator of this topic line) to find out who is
currently and likely to be teaching the class there going to be taking, and see
what they say on the matter?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Manish Agrawal
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Separating .net from Visual Studio
I have been using the visual studio IDEs right from VS 6.0 to VS 2000, 2003,
2005, and since recently 2008 express edition.
I don't need to draw a lot of windows forms controls etc. so, won't comment
on those features.
Otherwise, I find the IDE completely accessible. The big problem about the
error window popping up while typing has been substantially solved for me in
the following way:
When this window pops up for the first time, I take focus to that window
(ctrl+w e), then, go to the windows menu (alt+w) and then select hide.
That is it, the error window remains hidden and does not automatically pop up
untill I explicitly compile the project. The window starts popping up
automatically again after each compilation and I have to repeat the hide
operation.
I do not use any jaws scripts at all for visual studio. I actually go ahead
and remove the scripts for VS that get installed with jaws automatically. I
find the default environment sufficient for my use.
So far as benefits of using the IDE go, I cannot list them all here but some
of my favorite ones are:
- auto formatting or pretty printing
- intellisense
- watch windows, auto windows, and immediate windows
- trace debugging
Basically, it is not an option for me to use another IDE because I usually
work as a part of large teams.
I am fairly efficient at coding within visual studio and am willing to have a
small wager with anyone on a one-to-one coding contest for a fairly complex
multi-threaded app with a lot of classes and interfaces and so on. Having said
that, I agree that for a smaller, classroom kind of a project, sometimes using
a notepad kind of app may also be OK.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Jared Wright <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all, I was wondering what experiences any of you could share about using
any of the .net framework languages outside of Visual Studio? It's obviously
very powerful stuff and stuff I need to be comfortable with, but I really just
am not finding that I like the VS experience. Apparently I can work with my
text editor of choice unhindered with the .net SDK, but I wanted to know if
there are any other practical hurdles I've overlooked. I don't know many folks
that do their .net in something other than Visual Studio, and I imagine there's
a good reason why. Apologies if it seems I"m cutting some corners here too, I
do have a programming class this semester centered around .net, hence the
inquiry itself, and I'm really trying to find an alternative for VS or at least
figure out VS real quickly, because it's sure making this course irritating.
Not a lot of fun when 30% seems to be software dev and the other 70% seems to
be fighting with the IDE.Any thoughts welcome.
Best,
JW
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