RE: Searching for blind programmer to start a school for blind programmers

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:47:04 -0400

I am not quite as old as you but I come from the same time zone.  I had to
learn assembler to hack games on the Vic 20 and the commodore 64 and the TI
but more than that when I joined the Air Force and took on Electronics
Assembler made my life easier.  Then later in life after I lost my site I
took software engineering and had to burn chips and while we could have
wrote stuff in C it was much easier to control the registers and stuff with
ASM.  If we used C we allot of the time had to use special assembler
keywords to get things to work quite right.  If you look on the Fruit Basket
page I was also insane enough to write the fruit basket in Assembler for
windows xp and it runs in vista.  I am not sure if that runs in Windows 7
but I should revisit it and make sure it does.  Lost knowledge is not a good
thing.  Assembler may not be a way I would write a project now days but if
you want to teach someone how your computers work there is only one thing
better.  The one thing better is straight opt codes using a debugger and
watching what is going on.  Well you could also write straight binary files
like a good Fortran coder but who does that any more.  That what I should do
is create the fruit basket with nothing but a hex editor.

Ken


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Cox
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:40 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Searching for blind programmer to start a school for blind
programmers

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>Assember?  Really?  You must be almost as old
>>as me!  I can't even find people who care about speed or memory usage
>>anymore.
> I love assembler. It's a great way to teach people what's going on under
the
> hood and make them think about what they do. Every time I see someone
> reserve a 100k buffer just because, I cringe. :)

We must be from the same generation.  I'm 47, and learned to program
in machine code on an 8080 based Intel board with a hex keypad and
some LEDs.  It was a couple of years before I found out that people
programmed using assemblers, rather than entering hex by hand.

I worry that the new generation's early experience with computers is
amazing games and technology so complex they could never realistically
hope to understand it.  What's the natural path now days for kids to
go from playing computer games to writing them?  On the old Apple IIs,
you just typed list instead of run, and there was all the code.

Bill
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