RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

  • From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:38:32 +0000

Thanks.  I think it's because the pure image of having only a command line 
option (why when I get acquainted with Linux in the future I'll never use 
distributions such as Rhel, Cent OS, or Ubuntu server edition if I can help 
it), scares me to death.  My goal eventually is to rely heavily on Powershell, 
but not to the point that I don't use gui at all.  I think it really depends on 
what's going on.  Like when I have a whole bunch of repetitive tasks to 
complete, (such as the fact that I have 40 insecure folders that are writeable 
by IIS' web process on my server, I wouldn't want to change them all by hand 
via explorer), I'd use the command line to get a batch job out of it.  And by 
the way, I could use a hand getting the PS command for editing folder 
permissions.  Does anybody know it?  (I've searched for it via bing and got 
nothing direct or useful).  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:03 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

Hi Katherine,
That's a wise statement.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:26 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

I'm just saying that if I had both, I prefer to use both when the time is 
right, versus having no gui options at all.  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:57 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

Hi Katherine,
With a text file, you get total accessibility. When you have to set some 
parameters yourself, you know exactly what you are doing to the server. And 
most of the time with a web server, once you set it, you are done for a while, 
so it's really a small thing. The Linux/UNIX people on this list use lots of 
command line stuff. Old dudes like I am started out with no GUI stuff to speak 
of. It's partly a preference thing, and partly a generational thing. And I 
honestly think that memorizing a few commands, if you have to use them a lot, 
makes you more efficient than plodding your way through a GUI interface. That 
said, I like GUI's. All of this stuff has its place. I feel that it's good to 
have an open mind and except things for what they are. That didn't sound quite 
right.

Oh well.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:35 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

Well I don't like Apache because it lacks a point-and-click interface.  I think 
that Command line's nice, but I feel that you should be given a choice which 
you prefer, which Microsoft does that very well by offering either command 
line, GUI, or direct XML editing.  I've had to edit XML in iis, and I just 
don't feel comfortable with configuring things via files.  I'll do it if that's 
the only way to do it for a quick thing, but that's it.  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:31 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

loyalty and complexity? So the more complex the better I guess? I can have 
mysql up and running in minutes. Apache can be up and running in a similar 
amount of time. You know how long, with docs it took me to jump through the IIS 
hoops to do -anything-, with docs?
On 8/4/2011 9:44 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
> I think it's due to both loyalty and complexity.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, 
> James
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:31 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>
> Hi Katherine,
> You probably know that it's possible to run PHP with Internet Information 
> Server, right? I hope you are not preferring Microsoft over other solutions 
> because of brand loyalty. This, even though I know that Cobol is the best 
> language on earth, even better than English.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine 
> Moss
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:53 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>
> I'd definitely probably do that if it wasn't for my preference for Microsoft 
> products over others, and my preference for SQL Server's more vast set of 
> features built in.  That's the only reason why I don't use PHP my admin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, 
> James
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:39 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>
> Hi Katherine,
> For MySQL, you would totally love PHPMyAdmin. You can do all kinds of neeto 
> stuff in your web browser and it's all accessible.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine 
> Moss
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>
> I was curious about that too, for I could never seem to manage to get the 
> command line client for SQL server working.  MySQL, I could get it working 
> partially, but nothing more than that.  Like viewing logs, and stuff like 
> that, I could never figure out which commands go where, so I just said screw 
> it and moved to microsoft's database.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal 
> Mazrui
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:29 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Rodney Haynie
> Subject: Re: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>
> Hi Rodney,
> I am curious which aspects of database administration you find more 
> productive with a GUI client, and which with a command-line client.
>
> Jamal
>
>
> On 8/4/2011 7:17 AM, Rodney Haynie wrote:
>> Well I guess people will have different experiences on different 
>> computers. That is often the case with so many hardware configurations.
>> I know with VS2010 I was experiencing issues that other people were not.
>>
>> I say this because for what I use SSMS (2008 r2) for, I have no 
>> problems. I am not a DBA, but I use it for creating editing, deleting 
>> stored procedures, databases, tables, triggers, etc.
>>
>> I am in SSMS for multiple hours a day, mostly doing things like 
>> writing and executing SQL statements to query data.
>>
>> There are some small work-around I have found, but the tree view is 
>> not an issue at all for me. I can drill down through the server name, 
>> and go through databases, and tables, and columns within the tables, 
>> etc. I can then drill back upwards with no problems in the tree view.
>> This is all with JAWS 12. I think I started using SSMS in SQL Server
>> 2005 with JAWS 10. Before that I was using SQL Server 2000 mostly.
>>
>> My current computer is Windows 7 64 bit with JAWS 12.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rodney
>>
>> *From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Katherine Moss
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:28 PM
>> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>>
>>   From the experience I have with it, it's relatively accessible. The 
>> only pain in the neck you'll run into is that it has issues keeping 
>> you in the correct level of the tree view, and whenever you open a 
>> node, you can close it, but you have to log out of it and back in to 
>> see the node above it. Don't ask me why that is. It's a royal 
>> pain,but, it's workable. Maybe a few of us at once should report it 
>> considering it's been ignored for the past few years now.
>>
>> *From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike 
>> Freeman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:21 PM
>> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio
>>
>> Any thoughts on accessibility of same with JAWS Version 12.x?
>>
>> T I A!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
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