Thanks:I am just having a friend read me the code. The article is a Microsoft Magazine article so no code for the pictures I'm afraid - sigh.
Oh well, someday, perhaps. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
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Pranav, what Chris said. To every1 else participating on this thread: Even though we got the drupal book into the BSO collection, it is w/o screenshots, which, imo, does reduce its usefulness somewhat. Some of the screenshots would differ from computer to computer & were probably included for the sake of increased length & therefore increased cost. Others, however, were of the PHPMyAdmin page, drupal's administrative interface, etc., & these would have been good to be able to follow. Alas, no such luck. Cris is right though that usually books w/source code have a place on the site where u can get it, run it, rework & revamp it, etc. So try that b4 divin' in2 OCR, Rick. It'll be far more accurate & save u both time & headaches. Having said all that, as I noted earlier, this has presented terrible problems for me in my computer forensics studies & it has only been w/a great deal of difficulty & the aid of an optacon that I've overcome it. On 10/17/08, Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Thanks Chris:Hope you are right, allot of the technical sites are going more and more to the screen shots it seems, especially the magazines and Microsoft Technicalarticles posted on sites and blogs by their techs. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website ArticlesWith some of the later versions of OmniPage or Fine Reader, one can have asighted person draw a rectangle around screen shots and other blocks of text drawn differently than the rest of the text and have them recognizedseparately. This presents three problems though: first, the DPI problemJackie mentions causes a drop in accuracy, second, you need to keep a spare sightie around and, third, it may not put the text in a logical place in your document. As many of these are code samples, the web site for the book often has them online for download and you will find that text you can get from a site will be 100% accurate which makes using code samples easier. After the multi-month effort on the first Drupal book that Jackie, Jim Homme and I had to drag kicking and screaming into an acceptable state for BSO download, I think that OCR software may still be a generation away from handling documents with lots of insets, screen shots, epigrams and other finery that makes visual presentations much more convenient - hopefully, BSO will have contracts in place with publishers to get the clean XML forpublisher quality soon enough that we needn't break our ears over forcingsuch difficult examples into our shoe box. Happy Hacking, cdhPS: I did receive a second book on Drupal 6 which will take some time to get scanned as Susan, my lovely wife of 21 years, and I are headed off to India for a wedding and won't get back to Boston (where I left my scanner)until 11/8. Chris Hofstader CUNY, BSO, ATG, Odds and Ends email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com Skype: BlindChristian phone: 727-896-6393 -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBrideSent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:25 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles Unfortunately, even the OCR packages don't normally do a very good job on these damn screenshots. Some come out better than others but they're all far from good. I've had horrible problems in learnin some computer-related stuff cuz of 'em. The problem is that the screenshot resolution is so low (like 72 d p i) & OCR does not do well w/that sort of low res. Also, often they contain additional fine lines, further degrading the print. I often do the optacon thing, which is slow but gets the job done. I understand many don't have that option. On 10/16/08, Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Thanks Everett: I have an OCR on my Scanner / Printer and might try that. It messed upsomeof the numbers on a print version of my Resume though but as the sportsguysare fond of saying, it is what it is - grin. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website ArticlesKurzweil, last I checked, was even more. The alternative, one that I useperiodically, is to print the document and then run it through a scanner that comes with OCR software. I have a Fujitsu ScanSnap s500 (not sureonthe model). It was $400 and comes with Abby Finereader. It does 16 double sided pages / minute. HTH, Everett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website ArticlesHi Everett: Just a note, did you see the price of Open Book! over $900!What a rip. There should be a low cost piece of software out there but I've notfoundit yet. Guess they get big bucks for pattern recognition apps.I will have my sighted friend read it to me and give him a beer, a lotcheaper at least - grin. An OCR for e-text Might be a good project some day. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website ArticlesGood morning,If you have an application like OpenBook or Kurzweil you can print the article to that application's virtual printer and it should do the OCRfor you. HTH, Everett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles Hi:Reading a Microsoft Article it has figure 1, figure 2 etc as examplesofcode which, of course, does not read with Windoweyes. Are you aware ofany software to reade these items or a handy OCR or something that will reproduce them in text? My printer has a OCR but I used it once and it rearranged some numbers, not good for code of math formulas.Any ideas? Otherwise I have a sighted person to read me the pictures,orscreen shots, and I can type them out. 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