Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:08:53 -0700
Pranav, what Chris said. To every1 else participating on this thread:
Even though we got the drupal book into the BSO collection, it is w/o
screenshots, which, imo, does reduce its usefulness somewhat. Some of
the screenshots would differ from computer to computer & were probably
included for the sake of increased length & therefore increased cost.
Others, however, were of the PHPMyAdmin page, drupal's administrative
interface, etc., & these would have been good to be able to follow.
Alas, no such luck. Cris is right though that usually books w/source
code have a place on the site where u can get it, run it, rework &
revamp it, etc. So try that b4 divin' in2 OCR, Rick. It'll be far more
accurate & save u both time & headaches.
Having said all that, as I noted earlier, this has presented terrible
problems for me in my computer forensics studies & it has only been
w/a great deal of difficulty & the aid of an optacon that I've
overcome it.
On 10/17/08, Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Chris:
> Hope you are right, allot of the technical sites are going more and more to
> the screen shots it seems, especially the magazines and Microsoft Technical
> articles posted on sites and blogs by their techs.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:32 AM
> Subject: RE: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>
>
>> With some of the later versions of OmniPage or Fine Reader, one can have a
>> sighted person draw a rectangle around screen shots and other blocks of
>> text
>> drawn differently than the rest of the text and have them recognized
>> separately. This presents three problems though: first, the DPI problem
>> Jackie mentions causes a drop in accuracy, second, you need to keep a
>> spare
>> sightie around and, third, it may not put the text in a logical place in
>> your document.
>>
>>
>> As many of these are code samples, the web site for the book often has
>> them
>> online for download and you will find that text you can get from a site
>> will
>> be 100% accurate which makes using code samples easier.
>>
>> After the multi-month effort on the first Drupal book that Jackie, Jim
>> Homme
>> and I had to drag kicking and screaming into an acceptable state for BSO
>> download, I think that OCR software may still be a generation away from
>> handling documents with lots of insets, screen shots, epigrams and other
>> finery that makes visual presentations much more convenient - hopefully,
>> BSO
>> will have contracts in place with publishers to get the clean XML for
>> publisher quality soon enough that we needn't break our ears over forcing
>> such difficult examples into our shoe box.
>>
>> Happy Hacking,
>> cdh
>>
>> PS: I did receive a second book on Drupal 6 which will take some time to
>> get scanned as Susan, my lovely wife of 21 years, and I are headed off to
>> India for a wedding and won't get back to Boston (where I left my scanner)
>> until 11/8.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Hofstader
>> CUNY, BSO, ATG, Odds and Ends
>> email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
>> Skype: BlindChristian
>> phone: 727-896-6393
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:25 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>>
>> Unfortunately, even the OCR packages don't normally do a very good job
>> on these damn screenshots. Some come out better than others but
>> they're all far from good. I've had horrible problems in learnin some
>> computer-related stuff cuz of 'em. The problem is that the screenshot
>> resolution is so low (like 72 d p i) & OCR does not do well w/that
>> sort of low res. Also, often they contain additional fine lines,
>> further degrading the print. I often do the optacon thing, which is
>> slow but gets the job done. I understand many don't have that option.
>>
>> On 10/16/08, Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Thanks Everett:
>>> I have an OCR on my Scanner / Printer and might try that. It messed up
>> some
>>> of the numbers on a print version of my Resume though but as the sports
>> guys
>>> are fond of saying, it is what it is - grin.
>>> Rick USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kurzweil, last I checked, was even more. The alternative, one that I
>>>> use
>>>> periodically, is to print the document and then run it through a scanner
>>>> that comes with OCR software. I have a Fujitsu ScanSnap s500 (not sure
>> on
>>>>
>>>> the model). It was $400 and comes with Abby Finereader. It does 16
>>>> double sided pages / minute.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Everett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:41 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everett: Just a note, did you see the price of Open Book! over $900!
>>>>> What a rip.
>>>>> There should be a low cost piece of software out there but I've not
>> found
>>>>>
>>>>> it yet. Guess they get big bucks for pattern recognition apps.
>>>>> I will have my sighted friend read it to me and give him a beer, a lot
>>>>> cheaper at least - grin.
>>>>> An OCR for e-text Might be a good project some day.
>>>>> Rick USA
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have an application like OpenBook or Kurzweil you can print the
>>>>>> article to that application's virtual printer and it should do the OCR
>>>>>> for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Everett
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Reading Embedded ScreenShots of code in Website Articles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>> Reading a Microsoft Article it has figure 1, figure 2 etc as examples
>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> code which, of course, does not read with Windoweyes. Are you aware of
>>>>>> any software to reade these items or a handy OCR or something that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> reproduce them in text?
>>>>>> My printer has a OCR but I used it once and it rearranged some
>>>>>> numbers,
>>>>>> not good for code of math formulas.
>>>>>> Any ideas? Otherwise I have a sighted person to read me the pictures,
>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> screen shots, and I can type them out. This is for a introduction to
>>>>>> Neural Networks project published in the Microsoft Magazine in Vb.net.
>>>>>> Thanks:
>>>>>> Rick USA
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