I remember that chat client. And yep sometimes it was a real shooting match with some down to right threats. I even know of a little game that came out of it that wasn't nice to women at all. There was one girl that went off the web and she still won't have anything to do with computers today.
Remember Wenny elf? At 12:41 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote:
hear hear!another set of notes from experience, cross net capable is great, but you do not, ever, want to make a chat part of your online system, I know from personal experience.people get real vicious real fast, and there sense of right goes straight out the window.I worked for a game designer that made the first blind accessible cross net game of any standing, and in league with it and giving in to requests he started a chat where the VI and there friends could mingle, the game could be played against each other and folks could talk,then folks started demanding "there rights" about things, ah, he got tired of it and gave the chat and its client over to me, and after a few months of abuse by the chat users, and there telling me what was there "right" even though I was paying for the chat and the maintenance of its files and the like, I just pulled my ultimate right and stopped paying for the damn thing, rights, the only person with rights on that server was the people paying for it, it's original owner, then me!so do your self a favor and do not run a chat or irc server for the ability to play across the net, something more like the php based web game black nova traders where you sign on to the site, and then find a list of folks and such would be much better, BNT had a single player to single player chat available in the application, so does or did the original all in play games and that was fine, but irc style mass chat, stay clear unless you really want to be abused.laters, elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: RE: Cross Platform Audio Game EngineTyler you need to re-think your idea of what accessibility is. This of course is just my opinion but if I cannot sit down and play a game against sited players as well as blind it's not accessible. Take card games for example. There is All in play but no self respecting sighted person would pay to play something they can play on pogo so you're stuck with a group of blind people playing blind people. I want to be able to play scrabble against anyone and so Graphics do matter. In fact that is one reason I liked the game of break out even though they are not where I would like them to be yet my wife was able to play the break out game but it was to slow for her. That can be fixed. No graphics can't.Ken-----Original Message-----From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, TylerSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:37 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Cross Platform Audio Game Engine I've started a project like this, which is just in it's early development stages. What I aimed to do was provide a simple setup for someone to use, use Lua (as it's quicker than Python) for the scripting language, and make it free, and/or possibly open source. There's one that David Greenwood of GMA wrote, but from what I understand he wants a few thousand for it. The goal with my engine is three-fold: First, I want to be able to make a bit of cash if someone sells the game. Say, $5 per game. Second, if someone would like to create a free game, they are free to do so. Last, I want to make this easy to use with good complete concise documentation. I don't know of any open source game engines for accessibility, you could use something that wasn't so big on 3-d rendering but had a good audio setup for something like this, accessibility is just audio after all, and there doesn't need to be anything special to make a game accessible that a decent engine couldn't do. There is also XNA with C#, if you like c#. I don't mind it so much, I've always wanted to get around to writing my own archiver for it though, since it only plays WMA files (and those are kind of big). So, I hope some of this rambling helped. On 1/12/2011 10:15 AM, Lex wrote:Hi Storm, 12.01.2011 18:32, Storm Dragon пиÑ?еÑ?:I have searched for this on Google but not really found what I am looking for.I am also interested in the topic, so I searched something like "3d game engine architecture" and found some books on the subject to read: http://www.amazon.com/Game-Engine-Architecture-Applications-ebook/dp/B001C4QKD4 http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Engine-Architecture-Charles-Development/dp/1584504730 And lots of books on the subject is here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4621536/Game_Design_eBooks_Pack I dreamed about creating a game engine for audio games from the beginning of my programmer story, since I started to learn programming. I made a couple of attempts but newer finished my work because of different reasons such as change of major language (from Delphi to C++), lack of time, etc. Finally, I decided that such a task is almost impossible to achieve by one person with limited time resources (I am taking a degree at the university on software engineering). Last months my interest on the subject has even increased. Now I am researching different connected topics (like how to bind C++ code to python nicely) etc. During my previous attempts to build an engine I have learned a lot and I hope that one day I will be able to finish my work.I guess my question is, what is involved in a game engine? I assume it makes writing games easier, and it is based off already existing programming languages with functions and/or objects to make game creation easier.Yes. Game engine consists of several subsystems (sound, events, input, physics, network, scripting - to name some of them) and some abstraction which connects all of that together (to make it an engine, not only a package of libraries). The last part is, IMO, the most important: there exist a lot of libraries helping in game creation which can help to develop audio games, but there isn't some layer which presents all that stuff in way, which allows end-developer to concentrate on the game logic, instead of problems like "how to move my sounds when the object moves" or "how to bind keys/joystick/mouse to my functions", "how to invent a yet-another-game-saving-restoring-feature" etc.I know there are several audio game companies out there, and in an attempt to get more of them to do cross platform work, I was considering starting work on a game engine.Consider joining me and collaborate on this. My target language is C++ (for the core of the engine) and python for scripting.I guess pygame is a game engine,I believe that pygame is a set of libraries, not an engine.but it is mainly designed for sighted play. So if I wrote an engine could I build it using pygame as the backbone, and just make it easier to add sound generating objects?I don't think that will be enough.Would it be better to do some platform checking and use openal in *nux and directx in Windows?starting from vista, DirectX no more supports hardware accelerated sound, leaving one only with openal as a wide-accessible alternative for using hardware sound.One thing that would be really awesome is to make it easy to make graphical games with accessibility. My ultimate dream is to have games that are accessible for everyone, not just blind or just sighted users.Then you might look at some existing open-source graphic game engines and extend one of them to help developing accessible games. 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