Re: Accessible UML drawing tools

  • From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:21:47 -0700

Inthane,

Alasdair's UML tool, and source code, are now available here:

http://www.alasdairking.me.uk/tedub/index.htm

Andreas

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:19 PM, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> great deal, thank you very much
>
> this comes up a lot so this will be a fantastic addition
>
> take care,
> Inthane
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible UML drawing tools
>
>
>> inthane,
>>
>> Looks like Alasdair has given the ok to post his accessible UML tool
>> (and the source code, actually!). So, as soon as I get a fresh copy,
>> I'll post it on my website and send you a copy to post on the grab bag
>> site as well.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> sounds great, I can only hope he is amenable, smile
>>>
>>>  thanks,
>>>
>>>  inthane
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>  To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>  Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:53 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>  Subject: Re: Accessible UML drawing tools
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I'll send an email for permission and get back to you in a couple days
>>> > (it's graduation weekend!). If he says it's ok, I'll toss you an email
>>> > off list inthane.
>>> >
>>> > Andreas
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > if he would be willing, I would not mind at all getting a copy and
>>> putting
>>> > > it up on my grab bag site so folks could get it?
>>> > >
>>> > >  have a good one,
>>> > >  inthane
>>> > >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stefik" > >
>>> > > <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >  To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:51 PM
>>> > >
>>> > >  Subject: Re: Accessible UML drawing tools
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > Donal said:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > There was also an EU sponsored project a few years ago called > > >
>>> > > > TEDUB.
>>> I
>>> > > > remember evaluating it at the time, but I'm not sure what the > > >
>>> > > > current
>>> > > state
>>> > > > of it is.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Andreas Said:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I spoke online to Alasdair King not all that not terribly long ago,
>>> > > > and as far as I know, no one is working on Tedub at the moment.
>>> > > > However, Alasdair did build a UML tool specifically for the blind >
>>> > > > > > as
>>> > > > part of his dissertation, which I'm sure he would be willing to > >
>>> > > > > email
>>> > > > if someone asked (He sent a copy to me).  If folks are interested,
>>> > > > > > > I
>>> > > > might be able to get Alasdair to post it (or let me post it).
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Andreas
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG}
>>> > > > <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Nick,
>>> > > > >  Have tried EA 7.1 with Jaws, Window-Eyes, and System Access and
>>> > > > > > > > >  > >
>>> can't
>>> > > > >  seem to navigate the application with any of them.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > >  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> Macarty,
>>> > > Jay
>>> > > > >  {PBSG}
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:15 PM
>>> > > > >  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  Subject: RE: Accessible UML drawing tools
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  Nick,
>>> > > > >  Tried eA with Jaws 9.0 and you're right about it being quite
>>> > > > >  non-accessible there. will try it with WE or System Access to >
>>> > > > > > > > see.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > >  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> > > > >  Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:47 AM
>>> > > > >  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  Subject: RE: Accessible UML drawing tools
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  Hi.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  Check out Enterprise Architect. www.sparxsystems.com if I > > >
>>> > > > > > remember
>>> > > > >  correctly.
>>> > > > >  Enterprise architect is very accessible with some screen > > > >
>>> > > > > readers.
>>> > > > >  Hal/Supernova is fine, the last time I tried it with Jaws it > >
>>> > > > > > > didn't
>>> > > have
>>> > > > >  a hope but if your using a good screen reader EA is my tool of >
>>> > > > > > > > >  >
>>> choice
>>> > > > >  for UML.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  Cheers.
>>> > > > >  Nick.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > >  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> Macarty,
>>> > > Jay
>>> > > > >  {PBSG}
>>> > > > >  Sent: 24 April 2008 13:37
>>> > > > >  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > > > >  Subject: Accessible UML drawing tools
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  All,
>>> > > > >  I know this question has been asked from time to time on this >
>>> > > > > > > > list
>>> > > but
>>> > > > >  I'm hoping for any recent updates that anyone is aware of. This
>>> > > > > > > > >  > >
>>> week, I
>>> > > > >  started as tech lead for a new development project which will >
>>> > > > > > > > >  >
>>> require
>>> > > > >  considerable documentation and reviews. I am hoping to find a >
>>> > > > > > > > tool
>>> > > which
>>> > > > >  will allow me to convey ideas and design structures in the form
>>> > > > > > > > > of
>>> > > > >  diagrams such as UML.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  I'd like a tool which will accept some form of text input or XML
>>> > > > > > > > >  >
>>> > input
>>> > > > >  and produce various diagrams. I have the latest copy of AT&T > >
>>> Graphviz
>>> > > > >  (version 2.18) and it is very powerful but Graphviz doesn't come
>>> > > > > > > > >  >
>>> > with
>>> > > > >  any templates specifically aimed at producing UML style > > > >
>>> > > > > diagrams.
>>> It
>>> > > can
>>> > > > >  likely be done but if there is something else already out there
>>> > > > > > > > >  > >
>>> which
>>> > > is
>>> > > > >  accessible, that would even be better.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  Thoughts???
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >  ------------------------------------------------------------
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