Have you tried playing with reclassing the various controls (Ins+R by default)? This might help, based on what I've read from yours and Nick's previous posts.
I'd put a little more into getting the app and playing with it myself, but finals are dominating my life this week to be frank. Perhaps after they're over. *grin*
Jared
Macarty, Jay {PBSG} wrote:
Nick, One thing I will give to Win-Eyes is that it at least told me "unknown component" for some of the objects which means it could likely be taught to navigate EA. Maybe, this would be a candidate for Win-Eyes 7.0 whenit finally comes out.In the mean time, the author of Deep View, Dorian Miller, has been extremely open to ideas and suggestions as to ways to improve that product. He and I have corresponded several times over the past few days and he has already implemented a number of changes. Yesterday, I was able to use Deep View to produce a rather involved flow chart diagram to communicate some ideas to my managers. Dorian expects to add some additional enhancements next week and we are exploring the use of anInno setup 5 installer script I wrote for Deep View and gave to him.Thanks again for your feedback! -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:24 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: Accessible UML drawing toolsHi, Sorry to here that. I use Hal/Supernova as my screen reader at work and it does fine with EA. I didn't need to write any map files either. When I tried it with Jaws the main problem was that Jaws didn't seem to recognise any of the window types. Not sure why, obviously the detection rules are different for Jaws and Hal. Having asked around some Jaws users there doesn't seem to be a way to classify a window or change the way Jaws detects windows. Granted I've not looked in to a great deal about Jaws scripting. I'm more of a casual user of Jaws. I mostly use it on the web at home and to read books.I've never tried EA with Win Eyes.I'm quite supposed it didn't work though. From what I've been told Win Eyes is generally pretty good at working this sort of thing out. If I get a spare half hour at some point I'll have to try Win Eyes out with EA. I'm sure I've got a demo of WE somewhere. Sorry I couldn't help more. It's a shame that Jaws can't do this as pretty much everything in EA is accessible to the keyboard. Cheers. Nick. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay {PBSG} Sent: 30 April 2008 23:04 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: Accessible UML drawing toolsNick, Have tried EA 7.1 with Jaws, Window-Eyes, and System Access and can'tseem to navigate the application with any of them.-----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay {PBSG} Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:15 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: Accessible UML drawing toolsNick, Tried eA with Jaws 9.0 and you're right about it being quite non-accessible there. will try it with WE or System Access to see.-----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:47 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: Accessible UML drawing toolsHi. Check out Enterprise Architect. www.sparxsystems.com if I remember correctly. Enterprise architect is very accessible with some screen readers. Hal/Supernova is fine, the last time I tried it with Jaws it didn't have a hope but if your using a good screen reader EA is my tool of choice for UML. Cheers. Nick.-----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay {PBSG} Sent: 24 April 2008 13:37 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Accessible UML drawing toolsAll, I know this question has been asked from time to time on this list but I'm hoping for any recent updates that anyone is aware of. This week, I started as tech lead for a new development project which will require considerable documentation and reviews. I am hoping to find a tool which will allow me to convey ideas and design structures in the form ofdiagrams such as UML.I'd like a tool which will accept some form of text input or XML input and produce various diagrams. I have the latest copy of AT&T Graphviz (version 2.18) and it is very powerful but Graphviz doesn't come with any templates specifically aimed at producing UML style diagrams. It can likely be done but if there is something else already out there which is accessible, that would even be better. Thoughts??? ------------------------------------------------------------Jay Macarty - Masterfiles Technical Lead - PBSG Phone: 972-963-1387 Cell: 214-549-3421__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblindThis email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may contain information of a confidential nature. 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