Re: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.

  • From: jyotsnakaki@xxxxxxxxxx
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:23:33 -0800

I have been using a screen reader on Windows for 3+ years now and I
tried switching over to a MAC and found it to be very hard to use. I
had to give up because I could not get anything done. I personally
hated the experience.


On 2/29/08, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Let me point out it took a lot of work to find your reply to this.  You
> really should put your reply above all the last post.  If that is true maybe
> I will just purchase IWork and their numbers program its only $82 anyway.  I
> think its stupid to put Microsoft office on a Mac anyway if your really a
> Mac nut you should use Mac stuff.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lras@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
> development.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Feb 29, 2008 12:40 PM
> >To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
> development.
> >
> >
> >
> >I just installed a Mac at work with a  20 inch screen with no vision at
> all.
> >It not only has a talking install but it also gave me a tutorial on
> >Voice over when it started up.  I am not a Mac nut and do not like the
> >interface but as for accessibility and doing everything you just
> >mentioned it is fully accessible and all you asked about is possible.
> >Something you will find coming from a window environment though is it
> >is very different and will be tough to switch to.  After the switch
> >though it works well.  I will say though that I have now installed
> >Ubuntu, Vista, and Mac and Mac was the easiest install.  The voice is
> >very good and very responsive.  I have not used Microsoft Office on it
> >yet or Iwork yet because we have not purchased a copy of it for the Mac
> >yet.  That will happen in the next couple weeks though and then I will
> >be able to comment more from a Mac beginners stand point on how easy it is
> to use.
> >
> >I would suggest if you have a friend that loves his mac so much then do
> >some web browsing there is a Mac blind users group and there are
> >documents on all the key presses you need to know.  Just go over to
> >your friends house and press the Apple key-F5 and your off and running
> >with a talking Mac.  That way you would have him there to tell you when
> >you are messing things up.  I do find one thing really annoying if your
> >not careful on your Desktop and application list you can rename everything
> just by pressing enter on it.
> >That's right you don't press enter to open an application you Press
> >Apple - O which is probably one of the hardest things to stop your
> >finger from doing.  If you take your enter key off your Windows box a
> >month before you start using the Mac you might do ok.
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:20 AM
> >To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> >program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.
> >
> >Hi All.
> >
> >I'm sure this has been spoken about so many times but I've not been
> >interested before.
> >
> >One of the guys at work has been talking about his mac and I'm pretty
> >impressed.
> >
> >I'm thinking about one for home and I'm wondering about accessibility.
> >I know there's Voice Over which is the built in screen reader. How good
> >is this, how does it compare to the plethora of windows screen readers.
> >
> >Mostly I'd want to do email, office type applications, read books which
> >are plain text or html, brows the web, maybe a bit of IM.
> >
> >I'd also want to develop PHP on it and some C++. what are the
> >development environments like, how accessible are they?
> >
> >Any information gratefully received.
> >Cheers.
> >Nick.
> >
> >
> >
> >Nick Adamson
> >Software Engineer
> >General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited
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