RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:06:23 -0800


I am ready to answer this question.  I tried out Voice over with
www.airset.com which is an ajax Calendar sharing program we use in the
office.  I also tried it out with Telis shared hosting which is the web
email that I have to use for my office mail.  It doesn't speak as the page
is updated that is just not how Voice over works.  It does let you access
everything on the page though and I was able to add appointments and
meetings easier with Voice over than Jaws because Voice over forces you to
see everything on the web page object at a time.  Jaws misses some things
and you have to use the mouse to actually access items.  Also some times you
have to update the screen with jaws because of the buffered review mode.
With voice over this is not a problem because the screen is automatically
updated but you have no idea this is going on because there is no
indication.    You either get used to less announcement of changes or you
will quit using Voice over fast.

Reading my web mail was much harder than in jaws but that is only because
you are forced to go object by object to get to each field.  It is what I
would call 100% accessible and only about 40% usable.  So while Voice over
allows you to do everything you want to on the web it doesn't make it easy.
You don't have all the nice short cuts that jaws, Window-eyes, and System
Access has but you do have a consistent interface that while difficult never
changes no matter if your web browsing or copying files.  I am not sure I
like it though in fact I find my self going to my XP box across the room to
check mail rather than check it at the Mac while I am goofing off.  I think
there are a few years of updates that still need to be made to Voice over to
be something a first time user could sit down at and actually like.  Sure a
geek can sit down and use it but it doesn't mean its enjoyable.

Ken 

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão
de Sousa
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:07 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
development.

Ok ... but is it fully accessible in the web, like would it be possible to
access gmail or more hard web apps with it or it is still in the
developement process like nvda is still?
Marlon

2008/3/1, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
> Yes I tried Safari but I do not like how it works. It works like the 
> rest of the interface for the Mac so its not awful and you can get 
> used to it but I would much rather be in NVDA, System Access and or 
> any of the pay screen readers.
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