That's a good tip. Since Adobe seems to strongly recommend the "infer
reading order" setting, I had generally been giving up on a PDF with it
when that setting did not render coherent text.. Now I know it's worth
trying the alternative settings.
Jamal
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It can sometimes be surprising what changing your reading order choice
can
do. I ran across a newsletter here at work once which Adobe Reader 7
initially showed me using its "Infer Reading Order from Document"
setting.
I got different pieces of text, all the nightmares of column
mishandling,
and so on. Then, just for fun, I switched to "Use Reading Order in Raw
Print Stream", and it was as if someone had just unfolded the document
in
the right order. It was suddenly a pleasure to listen through. I'd say
it's definitely worthwhile trying out different reading orders before
giving up a document as hopeless.
Regards,
Jerry
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... And some can be completely destroyed. I came across one document,
which
had no particular fancy formatting visually, such as tables or anything.
But Acrobat Reader 7 ended up formatting the document with every word on
a
separate line. A real pain to listen to.
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From: Travis Roth [mailto:travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 20 September 2005 15:37
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Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: Reading pdf with screenreader
Hi Jamal,
Sure, such PDF's can be found here and there, or if they have been
created
with accesibility in mind. Even untagged PDF's sometimes can be rendered
correctly using Adobe Reader 7. Anyway straying off-topic I think.
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From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:06 AM
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Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: Reading pdf with screenreader
Hi Edward,
Have you found PDFs that support JAWS table navigation commands? My
understanding is that, theoretically, this is possible with appropriate
markup in a PDF that is tagged for accessibility, but I have yet to
encounter a PDF where such table structure is actually implemented.
Jamal
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Hi Che,
I currently use both JFW V6 and WindowEyes V5. Both do a great job
reading PDF's. I've used them at work to read 1000 page
specifications full of tables and outlines. My job relies on having
access to these specifications and so far as I know I still have a
job. Give your screen reader a try before you spend money on
additional software.
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
At 05:16 PM 9/19/2005, you wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have found a couple of tutorials for visual basic that look
> helpful, unfortunately they are in pdf format. It has been a while
> since I tried to read any pdf files with my screenreader, as it was
> such a pain in the back to do. Should I see if Adobe has made any
> progress with their newest version of Acrobat Reader for the blind
> community, or get a pdf to text converter for these files?
> Thanks.
> Che
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