Hi Ellen, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:24:23 PM, you wrote: EM> errr, I don't remember if I did a restart between uninstall & re-install. :-} EM> The modem query showed a number of commands. only one was EM> unrecognized. This is normal. EM> I think they may have had a cable modem before their EM> son moved out. the AOL seemed set up for broadband, but there is I hear that this can cause problems for some versions of Norton AV, which doesn't seem to like it when the connectoid for the always-on connection disappears. Perhaps it's the same for AOL. AOL for Broadband might not fully support modems. That doesn't really explain the MSN problem though. You might check in the Network properties and the IE settings to ensure that the cable configuration is completely gone. I'd suggest removing and/or disabling the network card in Device Manager. --Scott. -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.