Hi Eric Yup, i'm pretty famous for being a crazy googler, but in this case i found most of the links in the second post by reading through the very geeky and long thread on the Wilders Security page listed. Please don't be awed by the amount of info i sent or the time spent collecting it. You probably won't have to do more than one or two of the things in the first post: 1) run "a squared" www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free 2) restart Windows in safe mode or safe mode with command prompt and run Avast 3) run AVG www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php 4) http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=download And i really enjoy searching. I was already famous as a kid for liking to help my father find his glasses (i eventually learned to just remember where i'd last seen them instead of bringing them to him when he didn't need them (-: ) and for always being the last to give up hunting for Easter eggs. Ek Eric Furman kirjoitti: > Hi Ekhart > Thanks for ALL the input. Where do you get all these links from? You must > spend hours and hours searching. > As it happens I did see the bit about running AVG in safe mode - which I > tried but no to avail. It just wouldn't open. > Will get down to trying some of your links. I'd need a month of Sundays to > do them all! > I'm grateful. > Eric > -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.