Hi Eric Forgot to add the list of online trojan scanners (see below). But first, here's some new cool and exciting info and help i found for dealing with trojans and Internet security in general: (but first a page that convinced me i may have to take antitrojan protection more seriously and get a separate specialized program running in the background, although i'm not sure the story described could happen with a firewall running: www.anti-trojan-software-reviews.com/about_site.htm) www.pcflank.com www.pcflank.com/art26d.htm www.pcflank.com/art17d.htm www.anti-trojan-software-reviews.com www.firewallguide.com/anti-trojan.htm www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,115939,pg,4,00.asp www.anti-trojan-software-reviews.com/ www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,9872,00.asp www.hackfix.org/software/antitrojan.html#at55 www.wilderssecurity.com/archive/index.php/t-8962 www.techsupportalert.com/best_free_tech_support_sites.htm Online trojan scanners: www.pcflank.com/trojans_test1.htm www.trojanscan.com www.bitdefender.com www.thefreecountry.com/security/antivirus.shtml www.pcpitstop.com/antivirus/AVLoad.asp www.ravantivirus.com/scan/ www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm www.kaspersky.com/remoteviruschk.html http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp www.krazee.unstman.btinternet.co.uk/page11.html http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp?cid=9059 www.e2chameleon.btinternet.co.uk/online.htm www.freeprogrammingresources.com/virusscan.html http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/home.asp?j=1&langid=ie&venid=sym&close_parent=true&plfid=23&pkj=WVNSVCOBSOCUEWUXLQO http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp?productid=symhome&langid=ie&venid=sym -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.