I know that the library itself is funded by the county, but as most schools have a PTA or PTO, a lot of Libraries have a Friends of the Library organization, and a library in Scottsdale is more likely to have one than a library in South Phoenix. I did say if the library did not have one then we would consider doing it for free.
I wish I could afford to say "I do not need gas money for doing an event", but I cannot. If we had enought members to where it were only 1 or 2 events a month I might be able to, but 3 quite often 4 a month coming from Chandler I need that money, or I can't afford to be there.
On 1/11/2013 8:41 AM, Tim Jones wrote:
The library system is Maricopa County, not city-based, so the Scottsdale location has no bearing on this and your comment is absurd. Again, they don't charge the kids or families for the programs, so our charging them feels a bit greedy if more than a simple registration fee. <SOAPBOX MODE ON> <FLAME RETARDANT UNDERWEAR ON> Look, I understand that times are tight for many of us, but using the club as a source of income is simply wrong. As most of you know, I don't take money from events that I'm part of with the club because I feel that way about it. In all the non-profit organizations that I've ever been involved with, PAS is the first of such which charges for outreach events. To say the least, I feel very uncomfortable with a practice under which club members are paid to the point of requiring W9's on file with the club. Additionally, since the club now requires W9's for payout, that makes members who receive payment contractors and the club has now become a business entity rather than a club or organization. On the other hand, if there was a club-level "booking fee" of around $25, that would be different. That could be explained as an administrative fee. I don't have an issue with the club making up for the effort of its members (versus private people) to arrange and manage such an event. If there really needs to be a "business unit" from within the club to run paid star parties, it should be a private venture of like-minded members and it should be treated as a separate entity, and not part of the PAS structure. Also, events hosted and managed by these people should not be considered as "PAS Events". Otherwise, it's not outreach, it's "Tony Laconti using the club's status in the community for drumming up business." <SOAPBOX MODE OFF> Tim On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Don Boyd <azphotog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I say we consider it like a school, most libraries have some kind of group that helps support them; If they don't then maybe wave the fee. After all we are talking about Scottsdale...not south Phoenix. Don On 1/10/2013 5:00 PM, Tim Jones wrote:I'd love to do outreach here as it's almost walking distance from my office :-). Ugh - and you think PVCC Union Hills has lighting problems… The Mustang is right across 90th street from a major shopping area and just south of Scottsdale hospital. However, they do have a nice parking lot. Since the library is a non-profit and offers their programs to kids and families for free, I vote that we do it gratis.
