Sorry to come in so late on this one - I've had a busy three months, and only just got back to reading the mail. Personally I find the whole 'virtualization' thing a complete con-trick. Sure, I now have a LUN which is really 50 different spindles - so what good is that if I send a 'single read request' and that activates eight of them. It only takes 8 requests like that and there are 64 reads queued up somewhere, and who knows where they might be ? Ask Cary Millsap about queueing and unstable response times. (Then ask Stephen Barr what the minimum and maximum response times were for his Parallel Query problem). And another thought - I've got a LUN which has 50 different spindles. Using reasonably modern discs, that's probably around 4TB of spindles. How many other databases are going to hitting those spindles ? That's what I asked the DBA's at a site recently when there 56GB database was on a 4TB SAN. Their S/A was insisting that the SAN has no performance issues - the database had recorded its first 3-second 'db file sequential read' time just fifteen minutes after I reset the wait times. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html Optimising Oracle Seminar - schedule updated Sept 19th ----- Original Message ----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Zito Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:54 AM To: Oracle-L Subject: Re: Storage array advice anyone? -Virtualization/abstraction of storage objects - when the LUN you are sending I/Os to is comprised of chunks from 50 different spindles from 10 different RAID-5 groups, the performance is excellent. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l