RE: Storage array advice anyone?

  • From: "Barr, Stephen" <Stephen.Barr@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Loughmiller, Greg" <greg.loughmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx'" <bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx>, "Barr, Stephen" <Stephen.Barr@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:51:50 -0000

Yes, it's shared with two other large systems - both OLTP.
 
The current striping at the OS level (vxfs) is 128k * 8 - which for our DWH
is a bit disastrous.
 
We have four dedicated paths to the disks.
 
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From: Loughmiller, Greg [mailto:greg.loughmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 16 December 2004 14:09
To: 'bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx'; Stephen.Barr@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Storage array advice anyone?
 
In our experience, getting EMC to perform an analysis of the frame has
usually provided some benefit. Is the Frame shared with other hosts/ports? 
But getting EMC to do a deep down dive on the Frame may shed some light for
you.. 
greg 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Drake [mailto:bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:52 PM 
To: Stephen.Barr@xxxxxxxxx 
Cc: Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: Storage array advice anyone? 
Amir, 
Obviously, you need more cache :). 
(ducking and running) 
It might be that you're saturated at the controller (FCHBAs - host bus 
adapter(s)) or in internal bandwidth - depends upon the number of 
paths allocated to your mount points. 
Paul 
 
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:34:40 -0000, Barr, Stephen 
<Stephen.Barr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Hi Amir, 
>         We also have a DMX 3000 box and have it striped 8 ways. 
> 
>         We have 83 meta devices, each meta device is ~67Gb is size and is 
> made of eight 8.43Gb volumes. Each volume is RAID 1, however, each meta 
> volume is striped across it's eight individual volumes with a stripe size
of 
> 0.94Mb. 
> 
>         The issue we have at present is that we are a datawarehouse doing 
> lots of 1Mb direct path reads. Each read will hit 8 physical devices (with

> 1Mb stripe unit size at OS). I assuming this is a bad thing - surely each
of 
> our reads should be hitting only a single device? i.e. we're waiting on 8 
> devices instead of only one. 
> 
>         I've performed a number of tests with PQ on the current setup, and

> it looks like the IO subsystem is saturated with a single PQ query (degree

> 4) to such an extent that two PQ queries running together BOTH take twice
as 
> long to complete....surely this isn't the pattern we should be seeing? It 
> essentially means that the system is 100% non-scalable. 
> 
> 1 query PARALLEL 4 (FTS) 
> 
> 1Mb Stripe unit         5 mins 18 secs 
> 512k Stripe unit                5 mins 18 secs 
> 128k Stripe unit                5 mins 52 secs 
> CONCAT                  5 mins 10 secs 
> 
> 2 queries hitting same table PARALLEL 4 (FTS) 
> 
> 1Mb Stripe unit         8 mins 43 secs (each) 
> 512k Stripe unit                10 mins 12 secs (each) 
> 128k Stripe unit                8 mins 35 secs (each) 
> CONCAT                  8 mins 10 secs (each) 
> 
> Does anyone have any experience of setting up this type of storage
solution 
> for a data warehouse? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Steve. 
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