I love using the Optacon with Spreadsheets and tables. Listening to them, or trying to examine them on a braille display just doesn't make them as meaningful to my mind's hand. In the scanner's defense: first, OCR as it is generally encountered is designed to capture literary text. When Desktop Publishing software and printers capable of generating proportional spacing and myriad type fonts became ubiquitous, the principals of traditional design did not proliferate through the user population in the same manner as did the software and hardware. People became entranced with their narcissistic/solipsistic ideas of what connoted creativity of layout in their own minds. This meshed with the culture's continuing drift toward post literacy and a descent back into pictographic communications because of TV, movies, and computer gaming... (grin) So, as there are no standards to which typography and design cling, it is ever harder for software to handle the heuristics of document design. For that matter, I find that it is often hard for sighted human readers to get past the undisciplined document design to the denotative content of the document... If properly set up and optimized, there is no excuse for the scanner and software to have missed the inversed text. There is, however some justification for the loss of the text running in a converse manner in orientation to the majority of text in the document. At least in Kurzweil 1000, one can independently, or with a sighted assistant, examine the regions into which a page has been divided by the OCR software prior to recognition and recomposition, and to re order the regionalization of the page, then have it rerecognized in that order. I think that because we have emotionally laden personal axes to grind with respect to the utility of the capabilities of our favored moribund tool of choice--analogous to the fountain pen in sighted culture as contrasted with alternatives like the ball-point pen, markers, crayons and whatever goofy device captivates marketroids and mindless consumers, We tend to deride the capabilities and utility of OCR technology to do much useful heavy-lifting of conveying large volumes of text to us in a rapid timely efficient manner capable of enabling us to work competitively Etc... Much of the criticisms I repeatedly hear on this list regarding OCR technology bespeaks a lack of familiarity with the methods by which it can be best employed, and a lack of understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the technology as a tool in our personal arsenals for Information Access Parity... Nick -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Thomas Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:43 AM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Extra Abilities Provided By The Optacon I work as a braille transcriber and I must tell you that the layouts of print pages are getting more and more complex as time goes by. Here is a story that will interest you because the Optacon emerges as the definite hero. Recently I received an electronic document to transcribe into braille. The document had been scanned but the scanned version had not been examined. I had to ask the customer for a print copy of the original document. Here are some of the things that the Optacon uncovered. 1. The electronic scan had missed all the major headings in the document because they were in inverse color (white on black). 2. The document contained bi-directional printing--words that ran from the top to the bottom of the page. The scanner missed those entirely also. 3. A very large table had headings across the top and also along the sides. The scanner picked up all the text but not nearly in the correct order. 4. Rather than using tables, some of the text had been represented graphically with lines and squares pointing to things and words and numbers that pointed to nothing at all. I could not interpret that mess with the Optacon, but I could determine when I got some sighted help that all the relevant information had been included. Many blind people merrily scan documents never even realizing that half the text could be missing, or as someone mentioned out of order. This is particularly damaging when for instance an answer key is involved, Unless it lines up exactly, the person receives totally wrong information. I often encounter pictures in my work. Some of them are labeled with important data and some are just decorative and unimportant. The Optacon can sometimes help to figure out which is which and, if nothing else, the Optacon can tell me when to ask for sighted interpretation. I use the Optacon every day, personally and professionally. I would have to say that my life would be very different without the Optacon. Catherine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -Catherine Thomas braille@xxxxxxxxx / ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. 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