>Obviously I did not get permission. But anyone who installs a WiFi base station has the option to prevent public access. Many of us don't bother, because there is no invasion of privacy, UNLESS we try to hack into other computers via this connection. There is a question of affecting performance for other users of this base station. 'I had to run to the store, so I borrowed your car. You left the keys in it and the door was open, so thanks for that. Sorry I delayed you for a few minutes.' Criminal! This user pays for his service, which you were using. It is most likely that his provider does not have an agreement with him to provide service for 3rd parties. So you're breaking his service contract. Sending packets through his connection is an invasion of privacy. We've already seen a case where an AP owner was busted for trafficking kiddie porn -- and it turned out some madman was parked outside in a car using his AP. Not hacking his system, but using his connection. This type of stuff is extremely difficult to disprove ('it wasn't me officer, honest!'), unless you can trace back MAC addresses and packet headers as a minimum. Actually come to think of it - even using an open AP without the owner knowing is considered hacking, passive as it may be. You don't have to do any work since its automated, but automation is possible for anything. Community efforts where users offer their AP access for gratis use are usually identified through their SSID being labeled as such (FREE, PUBLIC, etc.). Let me guess, this poor and clueless soul's AP was labeled 'linksys' or some other default factory-issued name. We ran into one of these techno-illiterates at Frys in Las Vegas - she was buying an AP for her son. 'I just plug it in, right?' 'Yep, but you will want to turn WEP on' 'Who?'. Oh the horror. Maybe you were using hers? >The decision whether to protect a node is primarily one of business model. There were a bunch of paid WiFi nets operating at NAB. But it still doesn't give you any right to access it. >And as stated earlier, we bought a base station the next morning so that we would not need to share. 'I stopped taking furniture from the house the next morning. I even gave some pieces back, since we already had a laz-boy and had no space for a second one'. >who control TV preventing it. If I need the latest weather forecast I don't go to the TV anymore; it is easier and faster to get it via the Internet. Now that's debatable - esp. if you were at NAB and had a datacast receiver tuned to KLVX. :) >different yet that that of his parents. One to many is being augmented with personalized communications. Kids do not sit down to watch TV for hours anymore; they may have the TV on while they are playing with their PS2 or surfing the net. Information overload is what it is... >And speaking of irrelevant...seems that the current model of a TV station is becoming antiquated in a world dominated by multi-channel distribution. Not my words...this is what broadcasters were saying to one another at NAB. No disagreement there at all. The best indicator of this is when the station engineer tells you 'yeah we have this stuff, but I have DBS at home, really'. >Did you hear about the press conference at NAB where Emmis announced an initiative to pool broadcast spectrum to compete with cable and DBS - they had about a dozen broadcast groups supporting the announcement. They finally figured out that the old model doesn't make money any longer? :) Cheers Kon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.