[opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
- From: "Adam Goldberg" <adam_g@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:49:34 -0400
Richard: "Technically respecting the "broadcast flag" is illegal."
Kon: "They actually have no choice in the matter ..."
WTF?
The regulation which would have required compliance with the BF was tossed
on appeal. There is no regulation which /prohibits/ respecting it.
Of course MSFT had a choice. That's crazy talk. Even if political
considerations encouraged them to follow the BF requirements, what the MSFT
product did does //NOT// comply with the BF requirements. (If it was even
triggered by BF presence or not). The BF rules are, essentially:
if(flag_present) {restrict_outputs(Table_A_ONLY);} else
{restrict_outputs(ANY_ALLOWED);} There is //NO// prohibition on recording.
It's not Copy Once. It's not Copy Never. It's Copy Freely. DTCP has a
state for it, "ECN" (Encrypt, Copy Protection Not Asserted).
[[ I am completely unaware of any technical analysis which determines
precisely how the various bits were set to cause this behavior. It's not
just BF, I believe. ]]
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Subject: [opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media
Center Play By?
Microsoft is in an odd position. Technically respecting the "broadcast
flag" is illegal.
But, since they could claim it's just a bug in their code...
I will never buy a computer with vista installed.
I'm still trying to figure out what GE's goal is in this episode.
Monty Solomon wrote:
> May 19th, 2008
> Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
> Posted by Danny O'Brien
>
> While its customers are still puzzling over why Vista Media Center is
> suddenly refusing to record over-the-air NBC digital TV, Microsoft
> has come out with an astounding admission, courtesy of Greg Sandoval
> at CNet News:
>
> "Microsoft included technologies in Windows based on rules set
> forth by the (Federal Communications Commission)," a Microsoft
> spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "As part of these
> regulations, Windows Media Center fully adheres to the flags used by
> broadcasters and content owners to determine how their content is
> distributed and consumed."
>
> Microsoft's statement shines light on how Microsoft expects Media
> Center to behave. If this is the company's explanation for what users
> are seeing when attempting to record digital NBC broadcasts
> over-the-air, then Microsoft is saying Vista obeys the broadcast
> flag: a requirement rejected by courts and Congress.
>
> ...
>
>
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/05/microsofts-masters-whose-rules-does-you
r-media-cen
>
>
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