[opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
- From: John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:50:36 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
boy, are you off the mark.
Prove me wrong. Point me to the "law", "court holding", "regulation" or
"policy" that respecting the broadcast flag violates. You said "illegal" not
"unlawful", so this would have to be one of the above that imposes criminal
penalties. And, I gave you more latitude above -- I didn't limit you to a law.
Hint: there are none.
I provided extensive links on this, including links to blog posts from 2005 and
2006 from the MS team leader saying that they were (then) observing the flag as
meaning CGMS "CopyOnce." Now, it's "CopyNever."
It could be a bug in the code, but more likely it was a conscious decision,
since rewriting code isn't a bug per se.
NBC's part in this is that they asserted the flag in their broadcasts. GE's
part in this is that they own and control NBC.
So, you'll only buy a computer without an operating system so that you can
install Vista yourself? MS stops support for OS's after a while, but humans
tend to continue to go on until they meet their maker.
John Willkie
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Richard C. Ramsden" <ramsden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: May 24, 2008 10:19 PM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center
>Play By?
>
>Microsoft is in an odd position. Technically respecting the "broadcast
>flag" is illegal.
>But, since they could claim it's just a bug in their code...
>I will never buy a computer with vista installed.
>
>I'm still trying to figure out what GE's goal is in this episode.
>
>Monty Solomon wrote:
>> May 19th, 2008
>> Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
>> Posted by Danny O'Brien
>>
>> While its customers are still puzzling over why Vista Media Center is
>> suddenly refusing to record over-the-air NBC digital TV, Microsoft
>> has come out with an astounding admission, courtesy of Greg Sandoval
>> at CNet News:
>>
>> "Microsoft included technologies in Windows based on rules set
>> forth by the (Federal Communications Commission)," a Microsoft
>> spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "As part of these
>> regulations, Windows Media Center fully adheres to the flags used by
>> broadcasters and content owners to determine how their content is
>> distributed and consumed."
>>
>> Microsoft's statement shines light on how Microsoft expects Media
>> Center to behave. If this is the company's explanation for what users
>> are seeing when attempting to record digital NBC broadcasts
>> over-the-air, then Microsoft is saying Vista obeys the broadcast
>> flag: a requirement rejected by courts and Congress.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/05/microsofts-masters-whose-rules-does-your-media-cen
>>
>>
>>
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