[opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
- From: John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:29:04 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Here's the two television sets I was speaking of.
analog 28" inch (actually, 27 when measured) Sony
http://www.etherguidesystems.com/Demos/IMGP0055.jpg
digital 32" inch (actually, 31 when measured) Funai/Sylvanie
http://www.etherguidesystems.com/Demos/IMGP0056.jpg
same tape measures used for both sets. height of picture on both within 1/2".
And, that was because I told mom to buy one at least 32" wide so that her
picture on 4:3 content would be as at least as big with the new set as the old.
It's been so long, I don't have my math sitting around (I did this last year)
but if I can get it right, I suspect that Craig can, in time.
John Willkie
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Barry <tom.r.barry@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: May 23, 2008 11:58 AM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center
>Play By?
>
>It is good to get all this out in the open since then consumers can
>choose to purchase either TV recorders that can record TV or those that
>cannot.
>
>And I personally consider it extremely unlikely that (pending other
>legislation by Congress) any court would hold that any recorder
>manufacturer would have a legal obligation to honor the current
>broadcast flags on OTA TV. After all, if the courts have already said
>even the FCC does not have the power to enforce that flag then it is
>fairly sure that NBC doesn't either.
>
>M$FT was voluntarily pandering to Hollywood and I hope it costs them
>market share.
>
>- Tom
>
>
>John Willkie wrote:
>> this posting is specious and foolish. NBC -- and CBS o&o's by the way --
>> asserts the broadcast flag. The former appears to not know that they are
>> doing do. That's their bad.
>>
>> Microsoft's Media Center/Vista simply follow the language of the ATSC A/65
>> spec in the presence of the broadcast flag, which means -- simply that
>> "“technological control of consumer redistribution is signaled."
>>
>> The court's decision was that the FCC could not make this language a mandate
>> against receiver manufacturers. (Sorry, but I ACTUALLY read and UNDERSTAND
>> [for the most part] court decisions.)
>>
>> The decision didn't say that manufacturers couldn't respect the flag (it
>> said the opposite), just that the FCC didn't have the jurisdiction to force
>> them do so so.
>>
>> MS is an ATSC member. They are simply following the instructons that NBC
>> puts in their transport stream.
>>
>> We had a "somewhat higher level" discussion of this on my PSIP list earlier
>> in the week, and used the CNET posting.
>>
>> There is a pending question as to whether ignoring the flag is a violation
>> of the Copyright Act. That is too complicated for a CNET article, of course.
>>
>> John Willkie
>> EtherGuide Systems
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Monty Solomon <monty@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: May 23, 2008 4:47 AM
>>> To: undisclosed-recipient@null, null@null
>>> Subject: [opendtv] Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center
>>> Play By?
>>>
>>>
>>> May 19th, 2008
>>> Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
>>> Posted by Danny O'Brien
>>>
>>> While its customers are still puzzling over why Vista Media Center is
>>> suddenly refusing to record over-the-air NBC digital TV, Microsoft
>>> has come out with an astounding admission, courtesy of Greg Sandoval
>>> at CNet News:
>>>
>>> "Microsoft included technologies in Windows based on rules set
>>> forth by the (Federal Communications Commission)," a Microsoft
>>> spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "As part of these
>>> regulations, Windows Media Center fully adheres to the flags used by
>>> broadcasters and content owners to determine how their content is
>>> distributed and consumed."
>>>
>>> Microsoft's statement shines light on how Microsoft expects Media
>>> Center to behave. If this is the company's explanation for what users
>>> are seeing when attempting to record digital NBC broadcasts
>>> over-the-air, then Microsoft is saying Vista obeys the broadcast
>>> flag: a requirement rejected by courts and Congress.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/05/microsofts-masters-whose-rules-does-your-media-cen
>>>
>>>
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