[opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition
- From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:49:54 +1200
Thankyou John,
Yes, I understand the reason for existance of the regional coding. It's
a wicked old world that forces the likes of Hollywood to apply such
restrictions.
I cannot deny the "living in paradise" statement. I do think I am
fortunate in that respect.
Regarding the region 4 specific DVDs, yes all DVDs sold in NZ are
required to be PAL. There is a law that decrees that merchandise be "fit
for purpose". Clearly, if NTSC discs, region 4 or otherwise, give people
problems with their PAL only TVs (because they do not have an unusually
cleaver DVD player), then they contraviene this law. I have observed
though that it appears to be acceptable to sell NTSC discs in Australia.
Quite often there is no statement on the DISC cover clarifying if it is
NTSC or PAL. These are generally NTSC.
Sometime back I noted that a particular DVD rental store here tried to
import R4 (I presume Mexican) NTSC discs. That got them into a spot of
bother!
Barry Wilkins
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Shutt [mailto:shuttj@xxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 6:31 a.m.
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition
Barry,
I can understand your frustration at the region codes, but they were
introduced because of the realities of the entertainment industry. I
would
be equally miffed if I lived in NZ and didn't receive first run
Hollywood
movies in theaters until 6 months after their opening in the US.
In most cases, (but certainly not all) the studios cannot afford to make
enough prints of a movie for a simultaneous worldwide release. So they
release in their largest market first, then move the prints to Europe,
Asia,
and Oceania for theatrical release while the DVD version is released in
the
US. Then a PAL version DVD is authored for release after the theatrical
release has run its course.
I suppose that is the price you pay for living in paradise.
On the other hand, there are region 2 coded DVDs that I'd like to own,
but
in the US it is extremely difficult to purchase a DVD player that can be
hacked to be region free.
You said that there are PAL specific region 4 DVDs. I wonder if there
are
also NTSC specific region 4 DVDS, since Mexico is also region 4, but is
an
NTSC country.
Actually, there are DVD players that convert between NTSC and PAL
internally, so you don't need a new television, you need a new DVD
player.
I owned an APEX that could play region 1 DVDs and spit out PAL or NTSC.
John Shutt
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> So you may say, stop the complaining and go get some R1 DVDs. Do you
> know that it is illegal for outlets here to sell anything other than
R4
> DVDs. And by the way. Before anybody says that there is no difference
in
> an NTSC or PAL encoded disc. There certainly is!
>
> My old TV would not render any colour using an NTSC R1 disc while
being
> used on my multi-region DVD player. Why? Because the TV was PAL only
> compatible. I could play the same disc on my player using a new multi
> format TV from a shop here without a problem.
>
> So now you would say, "Hey get a new TV." Well that's wonderful isn't
> it. Because Hollywood has decreed a regional coding system that the
rest
> of the world then feels hell bent on circumventing, we must all go
> change our otherwise perfectly operating TVs so that we can watch
> (according to Hollywood) illegal R1 DVDs.
>
> I do feel I must have ruffled your feathers somewhat John. Best relax
> and have a nice cup of tea old chap.
>
> Barry Wilkins =3D20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Golitsis [mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2004 1:48 a.m.
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition
>
>
> So let me get this straight. You bemoan the lack of Region 2 PAL
> titles, and=3D20
> blame this on the region coding scheme? And you're mad at the world
> because=3D20
> NTSC titles are released before PAL titles and sometimes PAL versions
> are never=3D20
> released? And that the consumer electronics manufacturers should have
> consulted=3D20
> you, or the government in your region or something like that,
before=3D20
> implementing regional coding?
>
> And also that you think your 42" plasma is a big screen that could
> clearly=3D20
> demonstrate the difference between standard DVB-T and HDTV? And DVB-T
> looks so=3D20
> good to you that you can't imagine HDTV looking better? Therefore you
> conclude=3D20
> that HDTV is unnecessary?
>
> I do say that this could be win the "Silly Rant of the Year" award!
>
> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:15 PM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition
>
>
> > I am intrigued to know this. When this diabolical concept was
devised,
> > was there any say from representatives of any of the "lesser"
regions
> in
> > deciding the hierarchy of those regions?
>
> =3D20
> =3D20
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