Barry, I can understand your frustration at the region codes, but they were introduced because of the realities of the entertainment industry. I would be equally miffed if I lived in NZ and didn't receive first run Hollywood movies in theaters until 6 months after their opening in the US. In most cases, (but certainly not all) the studios cannot afford to make enough prints of a movie for a simultaneous worldwide release. So they release in their largest market first, then move the prints to Europe, Asia, and Oceania for theatrical release while the DVD version is released in the US. Then a PAL version DVD is authored for release after the theatrical release has run its course. I suppose that is the price you pay for living in paradise. On the other hand, there are region 2 coded DVDs that I'd like to own, but in the US it is extremely difficult to purchase a DVD player that can be hacked to be region free. You said that there are PAL specific region 4 DVDs. I wonder if there are also NTSC specific region 4 DVDS, since Mexico is also region 4, but is an NTSC country. Actually, there are DVD players that convert between NTSC and PAL internally, so you don't need a new television, you need a new DVD player. I owned an APEX that could play region 1 DVDs and spit out PAL or NTSC. John Shutt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > So you may say, stop the complaining and go get some R1 DVDs. Do you > know that it is illegal for outlets here to sell anything other than R4 > DVDs. And by the way. Before anybody says that there is no difference in > an NTSC or PAL encoded disc. There certainly is! > > My old TV would not render any colour using an NTSC R1 disc while being > used on my multi-region DVD player. Why? Because the TV was PAL only > compatible. I could play the same disc on my player using a new multi > format TV from a shop here without a problem. > > So now you would say, "Hey get a new TV." Well that's wonderful isn't > it. Because Hollywood has decreed a regional coding system that the rest > of the world then feels hell bent on circumventing, we must all go > change our otherwise perfectly operating TVs so that we can watch > (according to Hollywood) illegal R1 DVDs. > > I do feel I must have ruffled your feathers somewhat John. Best relax > and have a nice cup of tea old chap. > > Barry Wilkins =20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Golitsis [mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2004 1:48 a.m. > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition > > > So let me get this straight. You bemoan the lack of Region 2 PAL > titles, and=20 > blame this on the region coding scheme? And you're mad at the world > because=20 > NTSC titles are released before PAL titles and sometimes PAL versions > are never=20 > released? And that the consumer electronics manufacturers should have > consulted=20 > you, or the government in your region or something like that, before=20 > implementing regional coding? > > And also that you think your 42" plasma is a big screen that could > clearly=20 > demonstrate the difference between standard DVB-T and HDTV? And DVB-T > looks so=20 > good to you that you can't imagine HDTV looking better? Therefore you > conclude=20 > that HDTV is unnecessary? > > I do say that this could be win the "Silly Rant of the Year" award! > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:15 PM > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Blue Ray has competition > > > > I am intrigued to know this. When this diabolical concept was devised, > > was there any say from representatives of any of the "lesser" regions > in > > deciding the hierarchy of those regions? > > =20 > =20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org=20 > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.