on 2/3/03 11:04 PM, Alex at admeddemda@xxxxxx wrote: > I've noticed lemark printers currently for sale are all Mac 9x and X > compatible, whereas, for example, HP printers are hit and miss... > some are , some arent. If you're willing to suffer through being forced to buy Lexmark cartridges & pretty poor print quality then the Lexmark is Ok for you (everyone I've ever known to own a Lexmark has sworn at them, not by them). As with everything, caveat emptor. When I recently priced out TCO for printers (our lab was getting one, and we also bought one), Lexmark came out by far the worst -- their printers were cheap but their cartridges were _extremely_ expensive (inkjets; the reviews I saw of their lasers totally turned me off... plus, we needed a networkable laser) compared to the competition. We ended up with a Canon i550. It was quite a bit more expensive than a comparable Lexmark or HP but TCO was *much* *much* less (my back-of-the-envelop calculations showed that even if we went through only one colour & one B&W cartridge/year (unrealistic for two people in education) the Lexmark would cost more) Even though HP may be "hit and miss" I'd prefer them since they've got a *very* successful track record making good laser printers (HP LaserJet 4 anyone... perhaps the greatest workhorse ever made!!!). I thought Apple (the problems were actually Apple with a lot of postscript printers) fixed most of the driver problems in OS X 10.2.3/10.2.4... I now have *near* parity with the Windows features for the HP 1200n. The one thing they have which I would love is *seamless* double sided printing where you click one button and it prints even pages, reversed and odd pages, forward (manual feed) automatically. In OS X (& 9) (for postscript printers) you have to print even pages reverse and then print odd pages fwd *again* but this time remember to select manual feed... the coding is so simple to implement <grumble>... Canon does it for a silly little inkjet, why can't Apple do it for PostScript lasers... the reason I pin this on Apple is that Apple does all the printer driver coding, third parties simply provide printer description files (ergo PDFs)). Of course, if I had a Brother 1870n all the time at my beck-and-call that'd be easy as pie since it has built-in double-sided printing (but, I predict that one or two years of heavy use will cause this feature to fail... it's already looking a little flakey after only 6 months of use). Think about the number of trees such a feature would save (of course, we live in Canada which is just north of the great lunacy of the Bushes, and in the country home to King Ralph "the moron" Kline and his court full of oil executives functioning as jesters ;P L8r, Eric. L8r, Eric. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/pages/members.html#Joinmuglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/