[muglo] Re: printer for G4.
- From: Eurogarth <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Muglo@Freelists. Org" <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:13:55 -0500
Eric:
Well I guess if we're splitting hairs then we=B9d have to call most printers
available today dot-matix, or even more accurate, raster-based: from laser
to inkjet, electrostatic and thermal, since that's how they all work. Only =
a
few very early plotters were point-to-point devices for perfectly straight
lines and round circles. Of course the even older impact printers were not
dot-matrix output. I simply used the term to delineate laser from non-laser
and your Eagle-eyes picked up the error. I'm guessing however, that when yo=
u
mention =B3carbon-copies=B2 you mean impact rather than dot-matrix, as they are
the only devices I=B9m aware of to use carbon paper or chemical equivalents
between sheets of paper. Thermal of course doesn=B9t use carbon paper between
the sheets making a "true" rather than "carbon" copy. BTW, from around 1989=
,
with the launch of it=B9s DeskJet 5xx=B2C=B2 series, HP offered separate Cyan,
Magenta, Yellow and Black cartridges... Until Rick Belluzo, who was running
the HP Printer division at the time, figured out that he could sell a lot
more cartridges and reduce HP's supply and inventory costs by combining the=
m
together, setting the standard for all the inkjet and bubble-jets that soon
followed.
My C42 purchase was for a new machine rather than replacing another printer=
,
but at $49.00, maybe I=B9ll just replace the printer when the ink it came wit=
h
runs out.... Still cheaper than replacing just the cartridges!
Cheers,
Garth.
>=20
> on 3/3/03 9:10 AM, Eurogarth at eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>=20
>> Also a cheap and cheerful dot-matrix can be had at future-shop for anywh=
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>> from 49.00 to around 99.00 If you don=3DB9t want colour, turn it off and s=
ave
>> the money on the cartridges. On the dot-matrix, the issue is usually how
>> much ink is in the cartridges and what they cost... Can be lots cheaper =
o=3D
> ver
>> time to buy the the slightly more expensive dot-matrix and get bigger,
>> cheaper supplies.
>=20
> I'm guessing you mean inkjets when you say dot-matrix (b/c dot-matrix are
> actually fetching a premium now because their only real use is wherever
> carbon-copies are required). I agree: spend a little more up-front to get=
a
> few things:
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> 1. separate black and colour cartridges;
> 2. refillable black cartridges (though, they seem to be going the way of =
th=3D
> e
> dodo bird) like in the StyleWriter II or 1200 (Canon BJ2 series);
> 3. cheaper cartridges (price out black and colour cartridges and compare)=
;
> 4. if you expect to print more than 10 colour pages in the life of your
> printer (especially colour photos), you may want to check out Canon's new
> line-up of printers with separate cartridges for each of the colours.
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> In Canon's case they've devised a new (and quite innovative) system. They
> have a separate cartridge for each colour. You can get 4 colour (1 black =
+ =3D
> 1
> each of cyan magenta yellow) or 7 colour (1 black + 6 colours... awesome
> print quality) print systems from them now. This basically means that you
> don't have to pay through the nose when you run out of one of the colours=
i=3D
> n
> your (hyper) expensive colour cartridge -- you can replace the colour tha=
t
> ran out (and, as those of you who do colour printing will know, you often
> run out of one the colours before the others).
>=20
> You pay more up-front for the printer, but you pay a lot less in the long
> run for consumables. Basically the old axiom, 'you get what you pay for' =
is
> true -- you can buy a cheap printer and pay through the nose for cartridg=
es
> or pay a little more and pay less for (more sensible) cartridges in the l=
on=3D
> g
> run. Since we're all Mac users we are well acquainted with the principle =
of
> 'you get what you pay for'.
>=20
>> One interesting note, I went for the C42UX at Future Shop... Unlike all =
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>> others, there was as USB cable in the box... This saved me an additional
>> $30.00! The printer was listed at $69.99, but I went in asking about ano=
t=3D
> her
>> printer (A Lexmark at $89.99 with a $20 mail-in rebate)... When I got to=
=3D
> the
>> store, they told me the were out of stock and only the demo model was ar=
o=3D
> und
>> which they couldn=3DB9t/wouldn=3DB9t sell..... So pretending to get really
>> incens=3D
> ed
>> with lines like=3DB2 I called ahead and was told you had stock=3DB2 &
>> =3DB3so =
what
>> ar=3D
> e
>> you prepared to do about it=3DB2 and asked to see the dept manager... He o=
ffe=3D
> red
>> me the C42UX @ $69.99 with an immediate in-store $20.00 rebate! No brain=
e=3D
> r =3DAD
>> esp with the USB cable included in the box.
>=20
> Is the C42 the replacement for the 740? (my brother got the Epson 740 whe=
n
> it was the first USB printer on the market and he absolutely hates it now=
)
>=20
> PS If you can, get a Canon BJ2x (fill in the x) if you can find a USB
> version with OS X drivers -- it's a cheap (reliable) SMALL printer and th=
e
> cartridges are refillable (nearly all StyleWriters were BJ2_s of some
> description (except for the 4100/4500 which were HPs)).
>=20
> Eric
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