[mso] Re: exe files
- From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:43:26 -0500
>>All one has to do is have the money to go out and purchase a system.
That's it. No education of this type comes with it. This is why I said
that the ones that we should be upset with are the people that create this
havoc. Not the ones that inadvertently spread it.
Likewise, all anyone has to do to fly on a plane is have the money to
purchase a ticket. However, because of terrorist, we...the INNOCENT...now
have to put up with hassles and packing specs, not to mention having to
undress in public...for security reasons to protect everyone else on the
plane...cos' we're all riding this thing together! Do you think the
terrorist care if you're pissed?
Likewise, all anyone has to do to get on a highway is have the money to
purchase a car. However, because of irresponsible drivers, we...the
INNOCENT...now have to put up with hassles and drunk driving checkpoints and
speeding tickets, not to mention seat belt inspections...for safety reasons
to protect everyone else on the highway...cos' we're all riding this thing
together! Do you think the drunks care if you're pissed?
Again, likewise, all anyone has to do to get on the Internet is have the
money to purchase the PC and connection. However, because of hackers,
we...the INNOCENT...now have to put up with hassles and email specs, not to
mention having to fudge legit attachments to get them through...for security
reasons to protect everyone else on the Internet...cos' we're all riding
this thing together! Do you think the hackers care if you're pissed?
In other words, unless you live under a rock...wise up! We're all in this
together! Fighting hackers is like fighting terrorist. It'll never end...all
we can do is try to protect ourselves. And that means we need to add
additional measures to protect the innocent (and stupid).
Dian Chapman
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-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Richard Davisson
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:56 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
Let me be 100% honest with you. What you just wrote might as well =
have been written in Russian. I don't understand a bit of it or the =
process of which you are writing. I am 32 and never had any type of =
computer classes in high school or college. Anything that I have = learned
has been totally self-taught. I know very, very little in = relation to
what is actually available to be digested. I just saw = something in a post
that I disagree with and responded to it. I still = disagree with it! If
posting my opinion means that I get "hammered" = then so be it. The only
way that I would know any of this at all is by = being on groups such as
this one and a few others. How can you expect = me to believe that every
new person to computers and the internet should = have other users on their
mind when it comes to setting up their = systems? All one has to do is have
the money to go out and purchase a = system. That's it. No education of
this type comes with it. This is = why I said that the ones that we should
be upset with are the people = that create this havoc. Not the ones that
inadvertantly spread it. =20 Richard L. Davisson
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/WhatsonmyPalm
We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered=20 minds; our planet
is the mental institution of the universe.
Johann von Goethe
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
> I just thought of allegory for my last response to you. Check this:
> >My computer is protected just as yours is,=20 but I don't like
> >someone telling me how to use it.
>=20
> So, you're sitting in an IRC room, say #2600, one day and some goon
>posts you the mechanics of overflowing the RPC buffer for IPC in the
>NetBIOS stack on Win32 systems. You see this thing, think about it for
>=
a
> moment and decide you'll wrap that up with an IP incrementing routine
> based on Class B addressing and throw in a little bone to cause this
> thing to spread itself to other systems and TFTP to get that =
propagation
> mechanism down to keep your initial payload light and nimble. Oh, =
yeah!
> Let's not forget to add a little text missive to lecture Mr. Gates =
about
> the responsibilities of being rich!
>=20
> Congrats, you've created MSBlaster (the first one). You and your =
buddies
> anonymize the spread of this little jewel by posting to the =
immediately
> unprotected clients of another IRC channel using a bot, leave the room
>immediately and even close the channel and, Presto! It's in the wild!!
>=20
> At what point do you think someone should have told you what to do =
with
> your computer? I mean, after the fact, some anatomically impossible
>suggestions come to mind so we'll leave that time period out of the
>question.<g> =20 For doing all this, were you?
> - irresponsible
> - malicious
> - abusive
> - doing your duty to improve worldwide system security
> - passing an important message to Bill G
> - all of these
> - none of these
>=20
> Thanks for giving it some thought.
>=20
> Bringing this back to Office, I'd say that it's true that having your
>attachments blocked is annoying as can be. But I don't think we can be
>so completely annoyed that some external entity creates its software
>with deliberately hobbled functions and still manages to get people to
>use it in that state. I mean, I sure wish we could have hobbled that =
kid
> in the IRC chat room *before* his poor sense of responsibility =
impacted
> us all.
>=20
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.mousetrax.com=20
> "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11!
> With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"
>=20
>
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