As off topic as this discussion is, it would be good if more computer people talked about ethereal conversations like whose responsible for what... Programmers aren't perfect, and that is fine, but if we could talk some more about what folks need and what folks need to do... And if they would quit putting us over a barrel and raping us so we have to keep updating to the new version because the old version (which has been all patched up cuz it was out long enough) isn't supported anymore and so nothing else wants to work with the old versions so you have to update and become paying vulnerable gamma testers... Grrr... Mac's doing it to us too with OSX. Can't quite run that on my current computer, so as more and more stuff is only available for OSX, I'm screwed. I think they're in the 3rd or 4th iteration of X, too. Grrr. Guess that business model worked for ms. Suppose Apple can emulate in more ways than one. -- Katherine Driskell Felts kdfconsulting Bringing resources and results together(sm) Sign Up for our email newsletter, KuDos Files (tm) on our website www.kdfconsulting.com 507-444-0204 Toll free: 1-866-kdf-4-411 ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************