[mso] Re: exe files
- From: "Glenda Wells" <gwells@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:48:29 -0400
Quite the vitriolic spiel Dian!
I basically agree that we should be cautious and concerned about others
when using the Internet but I also feel a certain resentment toward
large companies, such as Microsoft, because there is too much "Big
Brotherism" in the world. Suggesting that someone buy another product
isn't really helpful. Effectively, there really isn't another product.
What I mean is, were one to go with a different OS, LINUX, for example,
one is restricted as well. It's rather like being left out of the
community sandbox on the playground. Microsoft, for all intents and
purposes, still has the best toys. That means "they" can do whatever
they feel is appropriate and it isn't always in the best interest of
those of us at the lower end of the user spectrum. Don't get me wrong,
I'm a huge Microsoft fan (please no spam) but they often don't realize
or seem to care that a large segment of their consumer base would rather
have more control. Part of the reason though that there is so much
restriction on their part is that they program largely to the lowest
common denominator...the casual user who doesn't know what choices to
make. Those of us who are more informed continually stumble over the
safeguards of those who aren't.
/g
-----Original Message-----
From: Dian Chapman [mailto:dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:05 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
>that one can or can't do with one's software seems a pretty=20
>"big-brotherly"
way of doing things.=20
Pssst...it's NOT your software! You're only renting a license to use
what they have produced. If you don't like what they produce, buy
another brand.
And what YOU do on your own computer doesn't JUST affect YOU. If that
were the case, I would not have had to spend over an hour wasting my
time because stupid/uninformed people "did what they wanted" on their
own computers...opened viruses, got infected and cause ME to waste my
Sat morning because they "did what they wanted."=20
If a virus only blew up your own computer, then I'd say "sure, open
whatever the hell you want!" But the reality is that, the more people
who "do what they want" and don't pay attention to what they SHOULD do,
causes a ton of work for others. Admins and companies in the workplace
and the rest of use poor slobs out her on the net when THEIR computers
turn into spam/virus agents and start spewing out thousands of emails to
those people in their addressbook!
You have to realize...what you do does NOT just hurt you...it hurts
many, many others out here and also clogs up the net! Sure, the Internet
is free to all...just as the highways are. But, just as you should not
act recklessly on the highway, cos' your actions could cause serious
damage to innocents...so goes with the Internet. And the sooner others
understand that...the sooner the rest of us can get on with it.=20
My computer is protected, my network is protected, I've spent hours
guarding myself and my computer against viruses, security issues, et al.
I add every damn patch necessary to ensure I'm safe. Yet I still have to
waste my time because so many out there "did what they wanted!"
Dian Chapman
Technical Consultant,=20
Microsoft MVP & Instructor
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-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Errol Sapir
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:39 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
Dian & Neil
I see that Dian is peeved at being spammed with viruses just as I was
with having to find a third party way of allowing me to do what I want
with my computer. I still feel that if Microsoft want to "protect us"
they should give us the credit and allow us to decide for ourselves our
needs and wants. I agree with you Neil about the user being the greatest
security threat, but controlling what one can or can't do with one's
software seems a pretty "big-brotherly" way of doing things. Education
not being a policeman should be the answer!
Errol
-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neil Atwood
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:21 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
You're welcome Errol.
I'm not a defender of MS, but it seems to me that they have been doing a
pretty good job of plugging the holes as soon as they are known. There
hasn't been a major security issue with OL for quite a long time. The
attachment policy is simply plugging the biggest security hole there is
- the one sitting in the chair! ;-)
____________________________________
Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia=20
"If you want to improve your understanding, drink coffee; it is the
intelligent beverage." Sydney Smith
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:-----Original Message-----
:From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
:[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Errol Sapir
:Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2003 2:27 AM
:To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
:
: Neil
:Thanks
:I used one of the addin programs and now I am in control.=20
:Dian had I known there was that limitation I would have=20
:done something like
:you suggested. It still doesn't make Microsoft right in=20
:my eyes. They should
:be blocking up other "holes" rather than restricting users.
:Errol
:
:-----Original Message-----
:From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
:[mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
:Of Neil Atwood
:Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:45 AM
:To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:Subject: [mso] Re: exe files
:
:Well Errol, this is not exactly a new issue with Outlook,=20
:but are a number
:of ways around it.
:This page details them all:
:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/getexe.htm
:
:It's really very simple to work around this.
:
:FWIW, remember the day when OL and OE let all attachments=20
:through? For
:Outlook that was pre OL2000 SP2.
:People screamed blue murder that MS should do something=20
:to stop idiots
:opening virus-laden emails, and that OL was an admin=20
:nightmare (and
:remember, OL is primarily a business tool rather than for=20
:home users)!
:Well, MS did do something about it, and now people=20
:(probably different
:people) scream about how MS treats them as dummies...
:You can't please all of the people all of the time...
:
:Regards
:____________________________________
:Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia=20
:
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