[mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
- From: "Ian Elliott" <elliotts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:06:41 +0530
This was interesting. My kids have a P4 using Windows 98 and their computer
shuts down properly when they hit the 'power' button on the computer case.
I have XP home on a P3 machine but my computer will go through the whole scan
process if it is switched off from the power button - how can I set my machine
to do what was mentioned in this mail.
To make this mail on topic I find that office works a lot better on XP than the
other versions of windows that I have used (Office 2000.)
Regards
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: April Pace
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 2:45 AM
Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
Mine turn! First I love that spouses can agree to disagree so publicly!!!
Greg Chapman says "yes" and Dian Chapman says "flat-out NO"
Without getting into all the pros/cons about the technical aspects of
upgrading to XP, I will give you my two cents of why to upgrade to WinXP....
If you are like me, I have a home office, with two small toddles... their
favorite way of getting my attention, is to come in and hit the off button
on my 'puter killing what ever I had been doing since my last save... In
WinXP, I can make the off button work just like the Start/Turn Off Computer
.... Now when they hit that button, instead of it killing my puter, it asks
me if I want to Shut Down/Restart/Cancel.... And I can just Cancel the move
and kill them instead... Also If your puter/mouse ever locks up, And you
can't to a normal restart... you can hit that button and get to the restart
option without having to do a hard shut down....
April
-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Chuck H.
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:00 PM
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
Well, it sounds pretty darn logical to me, and I'm considering upgrading to
Win XP Professional. The thing that we can't get around, however, and that
bugs the devil out of me, is that the Longhorn release is not too far down
the road now and, not long after that, Blackcomb. If Microsoft is going to
release another OS every 18 months to two years, we may as well get that
third job and start saving more money for constant upgrades!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
>
> Hi Jamshed!
>
> My own opinion is yes, you should go through the pain (very little other
> than that pain applied to your wallet)for both the OS and the
> Application Suite. I've been running both, full time and exclusively,
> since their release. Here are the creteria I use for that opinion:
>
> 1. Compressed Time - In the computer industry, a lifetime of more than
> 24 months is a long time. It seems only yesterday that you installed
> Windows 98 and Office 2000. Sorry chum, that's been at least 3 years for
> the operating system and at least 1 for the application suite. If you
> wait much longer, you'll be at least 2 versions behind what's going on
> with your applications and you're already 2 versions behind on the OS.
>
> 2. Old software problems continue to this day, unpatched - NT4 for will
> never approach the security of W2K and W2K will never approach that of
> XP. Why? MS will stop patching them and will issue a new patch for
> products that have aged out of support only for the ugliest of breaches.
> Since installing Office XP, I have at last achieved a level of code
> security I couldn't even pretend to manage with Office 2000, let alone
> earlier versions. For instance, managing attachments in email is
> something I *do* want active protection against. The only way for me to
> set attachment security levels with Lookout 2000 was to apply the
> security patch...which then kept me from getting any attachments at all
> unless I was also on an Exchange Server. Pfui! At the OS level, the
> security issue is easing quite a bit. Yep, there are just as many
> exposures being found as ever and MS' legacy continues to haunt them as
> these old pieces are brought under the MicroScope. But, timely
> application of the patches is now much easier thanks to the Automatic
> Update Service MS released. And that tool is more well tuned to XP than
> any other version of the OS. Watch for this to change even more away
> from older OSes as time goes on.
>
> 3. Data Structures live forever - Every time any software manufacturer
> kills off a piece of its past, it stubs its toes. It's a given. The
> change from WordBasic to VBA within Word was both wise and painful. To
> make less pain, some of that old WordBasic structure is still available
> to you. The same with those godawful formfields. Those things work like
> they were designed by a Lotus Notes developer. Yep, they work, but
> they're a pain since they don't work like the rest of the system that
> hosts them. Word XP goes a step farther in making it easier to move away
> from these artifacts by making the use of ActiveX controls in a document
> even easier than it once was.
>
> 4. Is the interface the "only thing"? - Nope. I'm delighted with some of
> the things available now in XP for the developer that have never been
> there before. For instance, there is better access to OS dialogs than
> ever before. That doesn't mean, of course, that they didn't also
> compound the problem by breaking some more built-in dialogs and getting
> even more inconsistent in the names and values of some intrinsic
> constants. But that's all geekspeak, right?
>
> 5. Why did they have to go change the interface? - This always raises
> folks' ire. So the good news is that Word XP looks an awful lot like
> Word 2000 in most ways. If you're going to get tripped up, this is
> probably the biggest reason why. It's because despite the face, some
> things work differently underneath. Try building a userform and locking
> the template for Forms. It used to be that any data you might have typed
> in a field would be deleted. Well, that's a special setting in XP now.
> The default is to now leave that stuff untouched. It's also interesting
> to note that this change came because people asked for it.(I'm one of
> them!)
>
> On the OS side of this equation, XP looks more like a Mac than ever and
> has finally, I think, matched the Macintosh for flexibility and ease of
> use. If you don't like chamfered corners, though, the old look is still
> there, waiting for you to turn it on.
>
> 6. Uniformity - Personally, as much as I loved Windows 9X and the
> half-breed application suites that were made because of it (read that as
> Office 95 and 97), it's time to move on and finally get a unified
> Windows platform. Windows 9x was never going to be that platform and
> neither was Windows NT. Windows 2000 came RDC to it but XP finally sank
> the nail and these things finally have a chance of being stable, I
> finally have a chance to write one body of code that will run everywhere
> that has Windows under it and we can narrow down our troubleshooting
> trees in recognition that we finally have one platform in the Windows
> world.
>
> Conclusion: If any of those things are important to you and your
> opinions happen to align with mine, you want to get started migrating
> really soon. If you're a touch more the Luddite than I am or worse,
> there's no compelling need to move forward. Bear in mind this difference
> in opinion won't be enough to keep me from jabbering to you that you
> ought to upgrade, though.<g>
>
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.mousetrax.com
> "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11!
> With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamshed Mehta
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:01 AM
> > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using WIN98 S.E. & OFFICE2000 and am happy
> > with the
> > situation. Now that the XP products are well
> > entrenched, I am
> > wondering whether I should migrate to them. What is
> > the experience
> > and advice of you fellow list members on XP? Is it
> > really beneficial
> > to spend money and go thru the hassles of a new
> > installation?
> > Cheers,
> > Jamshed F. Mehta
> >
>
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