I have somehow missed Dian's advice. Can someone repeat it please? Cheers, Jamshed --- April Pace <4office@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Mine turn! First I love that spouses can agree to > disagree so publicly!!! > Greg Chapman says "yes" and Dian Chapman says > "flat-out NO" > > Without getting into all the pros/cons about the > technical aspects of > upgrading to XP, I will give you my two cents of why > to upgrade to WinXP.... > If you are like me, I have a home office, with two > small toddles... their > favorite way of getting my attention, is to come in > and hit the off button > on my 'puter killing what ever I had been doing > since my last save... In > WinXP, I can make the off button work just like the > Start/Turn Off Computer > .... Now when they hit that button, instead of it > killing my puter, it asks > me if I want to Shut Down/Restart/Cancel.... And I > can just Cancel the move > and kill them instead... Also If your puter/mouse > ever locks up, And you > can't to a normal restart... you can hit that button > and get to the restart > option without having to do a hard shut down.... > > April > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Chuck H. > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:00 PM > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ? > > > > Well, it sounds pretty darn logical to me, and I'm > considering upgrading to > Win XP Professional. The thing that we can't get > around, however, and that > bugs the devil out of me, is that the Longhorn > release is not too far down > the road now and, not long after that, Blackcomb. > If Microsoft is going to > release another OS every 18 months to two years, we > may as well get that > third job and start saving more money for constant > upgrades! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:29 PM > Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ? > > > > > > Hi Jamshed! > > > > My own opinion is yes, you should go through the > pain (very little other > > than that pain applied to your wallet)for both the > OS and the > > Application Suite. I've been running both, full > time and exclusively, > > since their release. Here are the creteria I use > for that opinion: > > > > 1. Compressed Time - In the computer industry, a > lifetime of more than > > 24 months is a long time. It seems only yesterday > that you installed > > Windows 98 and Office 2000. Sorry chum, that's > been at least 3 years for > > the operating system and at least 1 for the > application suite. If you > > wait much longer, you'll be at least 2 versions > behind what's going on > > with your applications and you're already 2 > versions behind on the OS. > > > > 2. Old software problems continue to this day, > unpatched - NT4 for will > > never approach the security of W2K and W2K will > never approach that of > > XP. Why? MS will stop patching them and will issue > a new patch for > > products that have aged out of support only for > the ugliest of breaches. > > Since installing Office XP, I have at last > achieved a level of code > > security I couldn't even pretend to manage with > Office 2000, let alone > > earlier versions. For instance, managing > attachments in email is > > something I *do* want active protection against. > The only way for me to > > set attachment security levels with Lookout 2000 > was to apply the > > security patch...which then kept me from getting > any attachments at all > > unless I was also on an Exchange Server. Pfui! At > the OS level, the > > security issue is easing quite a bit. Yep, there > are just as many > > exposures being found as ever and MS' legacy > continues to haunt them as > > these old pieces are brought under the MicroScope. > But, timely > > application of the patches is now much easier > thanks to the Automatic > > Update Service MS released. And that tool is more > well tuned to XP than > > any other version of the OS. Watch for this to > change even more away > > from older OSes as time goes on. > > > > 3. Data Structures live forever - Every time any > software manufacturer > > kills off a piece of its past, it stubs its toes. > It's a given. The > > change from WordBasic to VBA within Word was both > wise and painful. To > > make less pain, some of that old WordBasic > structure is still available > > to you. The same with those godawful formfields. > Those things work like > > they were designed by a Lotus Notes developer. > Yep, they work, but > > they're a pain since they don't work like the rest > of the system that > > hosts them. Word XP goes a step farther in making > it easier to move away > > from these artifacts by making the use of ActiveX > controls in a document > > even easier than it once was. > > > > 4. Is the interface the "only thing"? - Nope. I'm > delighted with some of > > the things available now in XP for the developer > that have never been > > there before. For instance, there is better access > to OS dialogs than > > ever before. That doesn't mean, of course, that > they didn't also > > compound the problem by breaking some more > built-in dialogs and getting > > even more inconsistent in the names and values of > some intrinsic > > constants. But that's all geekspeak, right? > > > > 5. Why did they have to go change the interface? - > This always raises > > folks' ire. So the good news is that Word XP looks > an awful lot like > > Word 2000 in most ways. If you're going to get > tripped up, this is > > probably the biggest reason why. It's because > despite the face, some > > things work differently underneath. Try building a > userform and locking > > the template for Forms. It used to be that any > data you might have typed > > in a field would be deleted. Well, that's a > special setting in XP now. > > The default is to now leave that stuff untouched. > It's also interesting > > to note that this change came because people asked > for it.(I'm one of > > them!) > > > > On the OS side of this equation, XP looks more > like a Mac than ever and > > has finally, I think, matched the Macintosh for > flexibility and ease of > > use. If you don't like chamfered corners, though, > the old look is still > > there, waiting for you to turn it on. > > > > 6. Uniformity - Personally, as much as I loved > Windows 9X and the > > half-breed application suites that were made > because of it (read that as > > Office 95 and 97), it's time to move on and > finally get a unified > > Windows platform. Windows 9x was never going to be > that platform and > > neither was Windows NT. Windows 2000 came RDC to > it but XP finally sank > > the nail and these things finally have a chance of > being stable, I > > finally have a chance to write one body of code > that will run everywhere > > that has Windows under it and we can narrow down > our troubleshooting > > trees in recognition that we finally have one > platform === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. 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