[mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?

  • From: Jamshed Mehta <roameri@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:28:25 -0800 (PST)

I have somehow missed Dian's advice. Can someone
repeat it please? Cheers,
Jamshed

--- April Pace <4office@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Mine turn!  First I love that spouses can agree to
> disagree so publicly!!!
> Greg Chapman says "yes" and Dian Chapman says
> "flat-out NO"
> 
> Without getting into all the pros/cons about the
> technical aspects of
> upgrading to XP, I will give you my two cents of why
> to upgrade to WinXP....
> If you are like me, I have a home office, with two
> small toddles... their
> favorite way of getting my attention, is to come in
> and hit the off button
> on my 'puter killing what ever I had been doing
> since my last save... In
> WinXP, I can make the off button work just like the
> Start/Turn Off Computer
> .... Now when they hit that button, instead of it
> killing my puter, it asks
> me if I want to Shut Down/Restart/Cancel.... And I
> can just Cancel the move
> and kill them instead... Also If your puter/mouse
> ever locks up, And you
> can't to a normal restart... you can hit that button
> and get to the restart
> option without having to do a hard shut down....
> 
> April
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Chuck H.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:00 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
> 
> 
> 
> Well, it sounds pretty darn logical to me, and I'm
> considering upgrading to
> Win XP Professional.  The thing that we can't get
> around, however, and that
> bugs the devil out of me, is that the Longhorn
> release is not too far down
> the road now and, not long after that, Blackcomb. 
> If Microsoft is going to
> release another OS every 18 months to two years, we
> may as well get that
> third job and start saving more money for constant
> upgrades!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:29 PM
> Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi Jamshed!
> >
> > My own opinion is yes, you should go through the
> pain (very little other
> > than that pain applied to your wallet)for both the
> OS and the
> > Application Suite. I've been running both, full
> time and exclusively,
> > since their release. Here are the creteria I use
> for that opinion:
> >
> > 1. Compressed Time - In the computer industry, a
> lifetime of more than
> > 24 months is a long time. It seems only yesterday
> that you installed
> > Windows 98 and Office 2000. Sorry chum, that's
> been at least 3 years for
> > the operating system and at least 1 for the
> application suite. If you
> > wait much longer, you'll be at least 2 versions
> behind what's going on
> > with your applications and you're already 2
> versions behind on the OS.
> >
> > 2. Old software problems continue to this day,
> unpatched - NT4 for will
> > never approach the security of W2K and W2K will
> never approach that of
> > XP. Why? MS will stop patching them and will issue
> a new patch for
> > products that have aged out of support only for
> the ugliest of breaches.
> > Since installing Office XP, I have at last
> achieved a level of code
> > security I couldn't even pretend to manage with
> Office 2000, let alone
> > earlier versions. For instance, managing
> attachments in email is
> > something I *do* want active protection against.
> The only way for me to
> > set attachment security levels with Lookout 2000
> was to apply the
> > security patch...which then kept me from getting
> any attachments at all
> > unless I was also on an Exchange Server. Pfui! At
> the OS level, the
> > security issue is easing quite a bit. Yep, there
> are just as many
> > exposures being found as ever and MS' legacy
> continues to haunt them as
> > these old pieces are brought under the MicroScope.
> But, timely
> > application of the patches is now much easier
> thanks to the Automatic
> > Update Service MS released. And that tool is more
> well tuned to XP than
> > any other version of the OS. Watch for this to
> change even more away
> > from older OSes as time goes on.
> >
> > 3. Data Structures live forever - Every time any
> software manufacturer
> > kills off a piece of its past, it stubs its toes.
> It's a given. The
> > change from WordBasic to VBA within Word was both
> wise and painful. To
> > make less pain, some of that old WordBasic
> structure is still available
> > to you. The same with those godawful formfields.
> Those things work like
> > they were designed by a Lotus Notes developer.
> Yep, they work, but
> > they're a pain since they don't work like the rest
> of the system that
> > hosts them. Word XP goes a step farther in making
> it easier to move away
> > from these artifacts by making the use of ActiveX
> controls in a document
> > even easier than it once was.
> >
> > 4. Is the interface the "only thing"? - Nope. I'm
> delighted with some of
> > the things available now in XP for the developer
> that have never been
> > there before. For instance, there is better access
> to OS dialogs than
> > ever before. That doesn't mean, of course, that
> they didn't also
> > compound the problem by breaking some more
> built-in dialogs and getting
> > even more inconsistent in the names and values of
> some intrinsic
> > constants. But that's all geekspeak, right?
> >
> > 5. Why did they have to go change the interface? -
> This always raises
> > folks' ire. So the good news is that Word XP looks
> an awful lot like
> > Word 2000 in most ways. If you're going to get
> tripped up, this is
> > probably the biggest reason why. It's because
> despite the face, some
> > things work differently underneath. Try building a
> userform and locking
> > the template for Forms. It used to be that any
> data you might have typed
> > in a field would be deleted. Well, that's a
> special setting in XP now.
> > The default is to now leave that stuff untouched.
> It's also interesting
> > to note that this change came because people asked
> for it.(I'm one of
> > them!)
> >
> > On the OS side of this equation, XP looks more
> like a Mac than ever and
> > has finally, I think, matched the Macintosh for
> flexibility and ease of
> > use. If you don't like chamfered corners, though,
> the old look is still
> > there, waiting for you to turn it on.
> >
> > 6. Uniformity - Personally, as much as I loved
> Windows 9X and the
> > half-breed application suites that were made
> because of it (read that as
> > Office 95 and 97), it's time to move on and
> finally get a unified
> > Windows platform. Windows 9x was never going to be
> that platform and
> > neither was Windows NT. Windows 2000 came RDC to
> it but XP finally sank
> > the nail and these things finally have a chance of
> being stable, I
> > finally have a chance to write one body of code
> that will run everywhere
> > that has Windows under it and we can narrow down
> our troubleshooting
> > trees in recognition that we finally have one
> platform 
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