Oh, I'll answer to the "old codger" label. I've been called far worse. When I was starting my website, one of my sons friends expressed surprise that anyone of my age could manage to do something as modern and complex as setting up a website. (An added incentive to do so!) http://www.alanstepney.info Alan Stepney's Model Engineering, steam, and workshop pages. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.