A well put response AJ, there are probably a multitude of reasons for the current slump, however I do feel that the heavy crackdown on OT is a significant contributing factor. Not just my opinion, but, as we have seen, the opinion of others on the list and I have recieved a number of private emails indicating a similar feeling. I also know of several ex members who became ex because of the restriction, so that cuts both was as well. Lucky I got broad shoulders, a more sensitive person could well have become somewhat miffed to be told they had 'popped up' (out of the blue as it were) with my post when all I was doing was responding to a posted question. As one person commented to me - pehaps it's time we pushed the envelope a little, just to see what level of OT freelists will tolerate. > I think that there are several reasons for the list being quiet at present. > The "old" list used to be quieter in summer than in winter and Andy's Board > has fewer posts than a few months ago. > I expect many members are busy making things, or out and about, rather than > spending time at the computer. > > Another reason for the list being quiet, is that usually I try to post > topics that will generate some responses and discussion. > Unfortunately, I have been, and still am, rather busy with work right now, > and havent been able to devote as much time to the list as I would like. > From being on-line several times each day, I am now only on-line every > couple of days. > > > As for "moderation", in fact, this list is not moderated. > That would mean that all messages were sent to me, or the other moderators, > to approve, before sending them to the list. > > Having said that, I will elaborate about the "off topic" policy. > > When Andy closed the "old" list, I felt that it left a gap, and several > people agreed with me. > Therefore I looked round for a host for a new list. > I found four. > Topica, which, as many will recall caused a lot of problems and was dropped > by Andy. For that reason, I ignored them. > > Two of them were advertising-supported, one by sending sales emails to all > list members, the other, by selling the email addresses to marketting > companies. > I would not accept that for myself, so wouldnt ask anyone else to do so. > > And, there is Freelists. > > I even investigated paid-for lists. The cheapest I found cost $50 PER MONTH. > > Hence, as far as I could discover, the only reasonable host was > freelists.There service seems good, but at the start, they did send me > emails warning about there insistance on keeping lists that they host to the > topic on that list. > Now, quite how often they check and what level of "off topic" posts a list > could have before attracting their ire, I have no idea. > > There is also the point that whenever a list goes "off topic" some members > object and leave. Whether they are right, or wrong, to do so is a matter of > opinion. > On the other hand, when one insists on keeping the list on topic, some > members object, which just proves the old adage that one cannot please all > the people all of the time! > > > > Finally, this, or any, list or forum, is for the members and should be what > the majority want. How active it is depends upon them, and what people post. > > If the majority feel that some off-topic posts should be allowed, I am quite > happy with that, although there is a risk in that it might result in the > list being closed down. > As I said earlier, I dont know how "off topic" one can get before that > happens. > > > Alan Stepney > > > http://www.alanstepney.info > Model Engineering & steam engine information pages > > > > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.