You seem to be missing the point Harry. It is not Tel, nor myself either as I also posted on this, who is complaining about the lack of list traffic, we are merely pointing out that if O/T subjects are too rigourously pursued and banned, then a lot of the friendly banter which makes a good group also goes with it. This what seems to be happening here, with OTHER people besides us noticing the general air of apathy and boredom. I notice that even your good self has no time for discussing on topic matters! If we are all too busy then there will be no new posts and so people will stop bothering with the group and it will therefore die on it's feet. Tony Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Wade" <hww@xxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: [modeleng] What's happening to the list? Tel, Wot's the problem? We all knew, or were soon informed, when we signed on this list that the purpose was to create a minimal OT model engineering list and to that end, and as a condition of the free hosting service, list traffic would be monitored for topicality. We KNEW that going in and yet we chose to sign on anyway. Some of us came here specifically for that reason. So now holding to the founding guidelines constitutes gestapo behavior? Hardly. SNIP MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.