[modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
- From: Jesse <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:28:16 -0500
Ken,
I have heard of "left handed" Monkey wrenches, but it appears that are
also left handed "Crescent" wrenches.
Jesse in summat warmer Troy, TN
> I have several Bahco adjustable wrenches which are not from Volvo. Yep, a
> royal pain but they are of excellent quality.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ian ridley
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:25 AM
>> To: post modeleng
>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
>>
>> I have a 'Bahco' adjustable which was part of a Volvo toolkit, and I can
> vouch
>> for the fact that it's helix is different to all the others that I
> have.Drives me mad
>> as I keep turning it the wrong way!
>> Regards
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:09 -0700
>>> From: sandfordfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> I have been told that the "adjustable spanner" or Crescent as it is
> commonly
>> known was invented by the Swedish company Bahco, but that Mr. Crescent (or
>> whoever started / ran the Crescent Company) saw it, reversed the helix on
> the
>> adjuster, and then patented his version of the device. Or it may be that
> he got
>> around the Bahco patent by reversing the helix on the adjuster, but didn't
>> patent his version, not sure which there. He then proceeded to sell it and
>> because it sold widely we now have his name associated with it. I assume
> that it
>> sold more widely than the Bahco one because of maybe better pricing or a
>> wider distribution network.
>>> I can't vouch for the accuracy of this info but at the moment (until
> advised
>> otherwise) believe it to be correct.
>>> Stephen Sandford
>>> In down-under Wellington, New Zealand.
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: peter chadwick <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 2:08 AM
>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>
>>>> It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish
> blacksmith,
>> which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in French, it is
> called 'un
>> clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =======================================>Message Received: Sep 25
>>>> 2012, 02:41 PM
>>>> From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
>>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>
>>>> Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a
>> conveyor in a copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge
>> gearbox with which we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being
>> very amused by a large spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers
>> name of :- 'King Dick'!
>>>> Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used
> to
>> 'span' or load cross bows?
>>>> And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of
> metal
>> that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel world
> that is not
>> engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!! or is that a
> 'faucet or
>> perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
>>>>
>>>> Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jesse
>>>> To: modeleng
>>>> Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
>>>> Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
>>>> Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual
>>>> that I have.
>>>> Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here
>>>> in the American colony probably because the first ones were made by
>>>> the Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter".
>>>> Spanners usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends
>>>> of the jaws or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I
>>>> have seen a spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would
>>>> fit more than one size packing gland or whatever.
>>>>> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
>> "shifter"
>>>>> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end
> wrench.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
>>>>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barry,
>>>>>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my
>>>>>> tailstock
>>>>> normally
>>>>>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
>>>>>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box
>>>>>> tool, a
>>>>> threading
>>>>>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
>>>>>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of
>>>>>> the work
>>>>> and a
>>>>>> center drill in another chuck.
>>>>>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by
>>>>>> different
>>>>> terms. A
>>>>>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander
>>>>>> over
>>>>> here.
>>>>>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban
>>>>>> and I suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or
>> something.
>>>>>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the
>>>>>> "chuck" for
>>>>> the
>>>>>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight
>>>>>> on the
>>>>> drill press,
>>>>>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the
>>>>>> chuck key a
>>>>> "chuck"
>>>>>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is
>>>>>> big
>>>>> tough blokes,
>>>>>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every
>>>>>> adjustable open end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent
>>>>>> wrench", I suppose because the
>>>>> first
>>>>>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually
>>>>>> forked
>>>>> tools
>>>>>> (Y
>>>>>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing
>>>>>> glands
>>>>> and the
>>>>>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the
>>>>>> back of
>>>>> wrist
>>>>>> watches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you
>>>>>> gents know where that name came from?? When I started work as a
>>>>>> machinist apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball
>>>>>> peen hammer, a flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was
>>>>>> supposed to get a "Monkey
>>>>> Wrench",
>>>>>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it
>>>>>> did 60
>>>>> years ago
>>>>>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of
>>>>>> "Monkey Wrenches" just as curiosities.
>>>>>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey
>>>>>> Wrenches
>>>>> got
>>>>>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is
>>>>>> because
>>>>> I
>>>>>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
>>>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They
>>>>>>> were the original "mass production" lathe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
>>>>>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right.
>>>>>>> The capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number
>>>>>>> of tools (usually 6) located radially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows
>>>>>>> Capstan lathes at work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barrie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jesse"
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box
>>>>>>>> tool, but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing.
>>>>>>>> No rollers in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that
>>>>>>>> fit the stock material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that
>>>>>>>> is installed on a sailing ship capstan????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
>>>>>>>>> It's one of these:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as
>>>>>>>>>> to what is a "roller box".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Al Messer
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