[modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
- From: Ken Strauss <ken.strauss@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:02:32 -0400
I have several Bahco adjustable wrenches which are not from Volvo. Yep, a
royal pain but they are of excellent quality.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ian ridley
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:25 AM
> To: post modeleng
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
>
> I have a 'Bahco' adjustable which was part of a Volvo toolkit, and I can
vouch
> for the fact that it's helix is different to all the others that I
have.Drives me mad
> as I keep turning it the wrong way!
> Regards
> Ian
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:09 -0700
> > From: sandfordfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
> > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > I have been told that the "adjustable spanner" or Crescent as it is
commonly
> known was invented by the Swedish company Bahco, but that Mr. Crescent (or
> whoever started / ran the Crescent Company) saw it, reversed the helix on
the
> adjuster, and then patented his version of the device. Or it may be that
he got
> around the Bahco patent by reversing the helix on the adjuster, but didn't
> patent his version, not sure which there. He then proceeded to sell it and
> because it sold widely we now have his name associated with it. I assume
that it
> sold more widely than the Bahco one because of maybe better pricing or a
> wider distribution network.
> >
> > I can't vouch for the accuracy of this info but at the moment (until
advised
> otherwise) believe it to be correct.
> >
> > Stephen Sandford
> > In down-under Wellington, New Zealand.
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: peter chadwick <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 2:08 AM
> > >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> > >
> > >It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish
blacksmith,
> which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in French, it is
called 'un
> clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >=======================================>Message Received: Sep 25
> > >2012, 02:41 PM
> > >From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
> > >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Cc:
> > >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> > >
> > >Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a
> conveyor in a copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge
> gearbox with which we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being
> very amused by a large spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers
> name of :- 'King Dick'!
> > >Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used
to
> 'span' or load cross bows?
> > >And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of
metal
> that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel world
that is not
> engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!! or is that a
'faucet or
> perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
> > >
> > >
> > >Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jesse
> > >To: modeleng
> > >Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
> > >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> > >
> > >
> > >On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
> > >Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
> > >Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual
> > >that I have.
> > >Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here
> > >in the American colony probably because the first ones were made by
> > >the Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter".
> > >Spanners usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends
> > >of the jaws or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I
> > >have seen a spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would
> > >fit more than one size packing gland or whatever.
> > >> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
> > >>
> > >> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
> "shifter"
> > >> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end
wrench.
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
> > >>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
> > >>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> > >>>
> > >>> Barry,
> > >>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my
> > >>> tailstock
> > >> normally
> > >>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
> > >>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box
> > >>> tool, a
> > >> threading
> > >>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
> > >>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of
> > >>> the work
> > >> and a
> > >>> center drill in another chuck.
> > >>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by
> > >>> different
> > >> terms. A
> > >>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander
> > >>> over
> > >> here.
> > >>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban
> > >>> and I suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or
> something.
> > >>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the
> > >>> "chuck" for
> > >> the
> > >>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight
> > >>> on the
> > >> drill press,
> > >>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the
> > >>> chuck key a
> > >> "chuck"
> > >>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is
> > >>> big
> > >> tough blokes,
> > >>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every
> > >>> adjustable open end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent
> > >>> wrench", I suppose because the
> > >> first
> > >>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually
> > >>> forked
> > >> tools
> > >>> (Y
> > >>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing
> > >>> glands
> > >> and the
> > >>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the
> > >>> back of
> > >> wrist
> > >>> watches.
> > >>>
> > >>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you
> > >>> gents know where that name came from?? When I started work as a
> > >>> machinist apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball
> > >>> peen hammer, a flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was
> > >>> supposed to get a "Monkey
> > >> Wrench",
> > >>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it
> > >>> did 60
> > >> years ago
> > >>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of
> > >>> "Monkey Wrenches" just as curiosities.
> > >>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey
> > >>> Wrenches
> > >> got
> > >>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is
> > >>> because
> > >> I
> > >>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
> > >>>> Jesse,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They
> > >>>> were the original "mass production" lathe.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
> > >>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right.
> > >>>> The capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number
> > >>>> of tools (usually 6) located radially.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows
> > >>>> Capstan lathes at work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Barrie
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Jesse"
> > >>>> To:
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box
> > >>>>> tool, but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing.
> > >>>>> No rollers in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that
> > >>>>> fit the stock material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that
> > >>>>> is installed on a sailing ship capstan????
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
> > >>>>>> It's one of these:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Alan
> > >>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as
> > >>>>>>> to what is a "roller box".
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Al Messer
> > >>>>>>>
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